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> Android mobile gaming is a multi-billion dollar industry. Guess what isn't? Linux desktop gaming. The name for this is platform politics (and I find it disgu

by shmerl 6y ago

> Android mobile gaming is a multi-billion dollar industry. Guess what isn't? Linux desktop gaming. The name for this is platform politics (and I find it disgusting as a Linux user). Stadia came out having way less users than desktop Linux and game companies run to release for it, while continuing to ignore desktop Linux users. It's not about the size of the market like some like to excuse it with. It's about expected to be paid by "platform owner" or something of the sort. Linux has no owner, so these companies are at loss from whom to demand extra money, even if they can make profit from actually selling games to Linux gamers. They don't grok open platforms. Better companies which aren't into platform politics release games for Linux fine. So part of the blame is on those who are hung on platform politics. But it doesn't excuse anti-competitive behavior of MS in the least.

tomnipotent 6y ago
> The name for this is platform politics No, the name is business. As it's always been. You seem to have a grudge against companies doing what's best for their business. > Stadia came out having way less users than desktop Linux These are not even remotely related. Stadia is a service that is immediately available to a huge market share, and actually has legitimate business opportunity behind it. > Linux has no owner, so these companies are at loss from whom to demand extra money, Games is a business, and you go where the money is. Guess where it isn't? Surprise, Linux desktop gaming! Plenty of people are making money (billions) on Linux gaming, just not on the desktop. Because there's an actual market.
- shmerl 6y ago
  Platform politics is not business. Business can work without it, as I explained above. And yes, I find platform politics to be disgusting and anti-user in essence. Stadia isn't huge as desktop Linux, not even close yet. And potential is all abstract. Linux has also a lot of potential, if these would release games for it. They don't care. It's not about potential or size of the market, it's about being paid extra incentives by the platform owner. I.e. dirty platform politics.
  - tomnipotent 6y ago
    Calling something politics doesn't make it politics. It's business, plain and simple. > and anti-user in essence How is it any different that cars having different parts? Is Ford anti-user because I can't snap in Toyota parts? > Stadia isn't huge as desktop Linux, not even close yet The potential market size for Stadia is exponentially larger than Linux desktop, and is a safer risk for game developers and publishers to get behind than Linux desktop. > It's not about potential or size of the market Of course it is. What else is it about? Google is willing to make the investment to make Stadia successful, to create a thriving customer base which in turn needs content. That's good business. No one is willing to do that for Linux desktop.

by shmerl 6y ago

tomnipotent 6y ago

> The name for this is platform politics No, the name is business. As it's always been. You seem to have a grudge against companies doing what's best for their business. > Stadia came out having way less users than desktop Linux These are not even remotely related. Stadia is a service that is immediately available to a huge market share, and actually has legitimate business opportunity behind it. > Linux has no owner, so these companies are at loss from whom to demand extra money, Games is a business, and you go where the money is. Guess where it isn't? Surprise, Linux desktop gaming! Plenty of people are making money (billions) on Linux gaming, just not on the desktop. Because there's an actual market.

shmerl 6y ago
Platform politics is not business. Business can work without it, as I explained above. And yes, I find platform politics to be disgusting and anti-user in essence. Stadia isn't huge as desktop Linux, not even close yet. And potential is all abstract. Linux has also a lot of potential, if these would release games for it. They don't care. It's not about potential or size of the market, it's about being paid extra incentives by the platform owner. I.e. dirty platform politics.
- tomnipotent 6y ago
  Calling something politics doesn't make it politics. It's business, plain and simple. > and anti-user in essence How is it any different that cars having different parts? Is Ford anti-user because I can't snap in Toyota parts? > Stadia isn't huge as desktop Linux, not even close yet The potential market size for Stadia is exponentially larger than Linux desktop, and is a safer risk for game developers and publishers to get behind than Linux desktop. > It's not about potential or size of the market Of course it is. What else is it about? Google is willing to make the investment to make Stadia successful, to create a thriving customer base which in turn needs content. That's good business. No one is willing to do that for Linux desktop.