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Meta-data isn't count! It isn't really data. It just provides a graph of everyone you interact with. What's the problem? And anyway, phone companies have to

Meta-data isn't count! It isn't really data. It just provides a graph of everyone you interact with. What's the problem? And anyway, phone companies have to make a buck.. Its not like we're paying them for the service!

the_only_law 6y ago
Had me in the first half
djsumdog 6y ago
Did you forget the /s ?
- fractionalhare 6y ago
  /s neuters sarcasm completely. In my opinion if you won't commit to being facetious online because you're afraid someone will (inevitably) think you're being serious, then don't do it at all.
  - DoofusOfDeath 6y ago
    While I agree in general, I think HN's rules of conduct discourage posts that have even a small chance of misinterpretation. (I can't quote the specific rule, but I seem to remember this from some feedback that @dang gave me a while ago.)
    - eitland 6y ago
      > I can't quote the specific rule, "Avoid snark" is my first guess.
  - dylan604 6y ago
    But if my mommy isn't hovering over my shoulder to tell me someone was making a funny, my feelings will get crushed.
  - MereInterest 6y ago
    By that same argument, using a sarcastic tone of voice neuters sarcasm completely.
    - cjmb 6y ago
      :) welcome to the great divide between spoken British-English & spoken American-English
      - MereInterest 6y ago
        It's fantastic. (Please stop reading here if you are British.) /s
    - fractionalhare 6y ago
      I don't really think that's comparable. Tone has more nuance and is a different medium of communication than the literal words you're saying. There are two channels of delivery there: the tone used to signify sarcasm, and the words you're saying. Tone is more subtle and you can modulate it to be more or less obvious. For example, you could opt for a dry delivery using little to no sarcastic tone (which is what typing sarcasm without /s is closest to, in my opinion). When you use /s, you're disclaiming the sarcasm immediately and in the same delivery as the words. It doesn't resemble tone at all, because you can't choose to be subtle. You don't get a beat in which the other person is initially surprised and then "gets it."
- FriendlyNormie 6y ago
  Why would anyone do that. It’s equivalent to laughing at your own joke. It’s cringey reddit shit. Go fuck yourself redditor.
loosetypes 6y ago
I’ve been in contact with Ingram Content data services to consume their book metadata api. I was amazed by how strict some of their consumption rules are against, for instance, storing the metadata. This is data you’re paying for! The docs claim it’s to improve the end user experience but I imagine it’s primarily to protect their interests as data brokers. It really jars me how metadata so inconsequential, like the year a book in the commons was published, can be so strongly legally protected by a party that didn’t even initially produce that number meanwhile we have so little say or protections when it comes to the personal data we first-class produce. I’m becoming more and more of the opinion that people in the US are second class citizens behind corporations. /rant
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the_only_law 6y ago

Had me in the first half

djsumdog 6y ago

Did you forget the /s ?

fractionalhare 6y ago
/s neuters sarcasm completely. In my opinion if you won't commit to being facetious online because you're afraid someone will (inevitably) think you're being serious, then don't do it at all.
- DoofusOfDeath 6y ago
  While I agree in general, I think HN's rules of conduct discourage posts that have even a small chance of misinterpretation. (I can't quote the specific rule, but I seem to remember this from some feedback that @dang gave me a while ago.)
  - eitland 6y ago
    > I can't quote the specific rule, "Avoid snark" is my first guess.
- dylan604 6y ago
  But if my mommy isn't hovering over my shoulder to tell me someone was making a funny, my feelings will get crushed.
- MereInterest 6y ago
  By that same argument, using a sarcastic tone of voice neuters sarcasm completely.
  - cjmb 6y ago
    :) welcome to the great divide between spoken British-English & spoken American-English
    - MereInterest 6y ago
      It's fantastic. (Please stop reading here if you are British.) /s
  - fractionalhare 6y ago
    I don't really think that's comparable. Tone has more nuance and is a different medium of communication than the literal words you're saying. There are two channels of delivery there: the tone used to signify sarcasm, and the words you're saying. Tone is more subtle and you can modulate it to be more or less obvious. For example, you could opt for a dry delivery using little to no sarcastic tone (which is what typing sarcasm without /s is closest to, in my opinion). When you use /s, you're disclaiming the sarcasm immediately and in the same delivery as the words. It doesn't resemble tone at all, because you can't choose to be subtle. You don't get a beat in which the other person is initially surprised and then "gets it."
FriendlyNormie 6y ago
Why would anyone do that. It’s equivalent to laughing at your own joke. It’s cringey reddit shit. Go fuck yourself redditor.

loosetypes 6y ago

I’ve been in contact with Ingram Content data services to consume their book metadata api. I was amazed by how strict some of their consumption rules are against, for instance, storing the metadata. This is data you’re paying for! The docs claim it’s to improve the end user experience but I imagine it’s primarily to protect their interests as data brokers. It really jars me how metadata so inconsequential, like the year a book in the commons was published, can be so strongly legally protected by a party that didn’t even initially produce that number meanwhile we have so little say or protections when it comes to the personal data we first-class produce. I’m becoming more and more of the opinion that people in the US are second class citizens behind corporations. /rant

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