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Yeah, I wouldn't bet on it being causal though I could make a plausible story that police departments that put dangerous looking military equipment in their rec

Yeah, I wouldn't bet on it being causal though I could make a plausible story that police departments that put dangerous looking military equipment in their recruitment videos tend to attract the wrong sort of people.

ArnoVW 6y ago
Or that police departments in dangerous areas have to resort to buying more lethal equipment. Thus ending up killing more no-good dangerous criminals. I'm more inclined to belief the first version, but it's good to keep in mind that this sort of interpretation has it's limits.
- NotSammyHagar 6y ago
  There is so much that is legal to own (but of course not legal to use violently). 50 caliber machine guns are legal to own, quora reports that it can take a year to get a permit. There are places you can go and fire mortars on private land. Should the police have tanks to counter these things? Because they are legally owned in the us. The answer is no, the police should not. They have shown through their actions (repeatedly during the past 6 months on top of historical actions) that they can't be trusted with weapons this powerful.
13415 6y ago
For a start, they should probably train police for two to four years like in other countries, instead of just a few months.
- Symmetry 6y ago
  Unfortunately a lot of police training in the US is about lowering inhibitions about being the first to use violence, google "warrior training" for more details. But I think that is a very real problem in regards to the sort of late night kinetic entries that result in the deaths of so many civilians and cops. I think that SWAT teams can have their place in large metros like LA where the sort of events that called for them happen every once in a while. But in third or fourth tier cities the local government can't afford the sort of intensive training required for a job like that but also those teams are always being sent on drug raids or things like that because there just aren't any incidents that would justify the existence of the teams otherwise. But sending a SWAT team into a situation that isn't already violent is just a terrible idea and US army forces, for instance, make an effort to avoid late night raids in a way that I wish our law enforcement community would follow.

ArnoVW 6y ago

Or that police departments in dangerous areas have to resort to buying more lethal equipment. Thus ending up killing more no-good dangerous criminals. I'm more inclined to belief the first version, but it's good to keep in mind that this sort of interpretation has it's limits.

NotSammyHagar 6y ago
There is so much that is legal to own (but of course not legal to use violently). 50 caliber machine guns are legal to own, quora reports that it can take a year to get a permit. There are places you can go and fire mortars on private land. Should the police have tanks to counter these things? Because they are legally owned in the us. The answer is no, the police should not. They have shown through their actions (repeatedly during the past 6 months on top of historical actions) that they can't be trusted with weapons this powerful.

13415 6y ago

For a start, they should probably train police for two to four years like in other countries, instead of just a few months.

Symmetry 6y ago
Unfortunately a lot of police training in the US is about lowering inhibitions about being the first to use violence, google "warrior training" for more details. But I think that is a very real problem in regards to the sort of late night kinetic entries that result in the deaths of so many civilians and cops. I think that SWAT teams can have their place in large metros like LA where the sort of events that called for them happen every once in a while. But in third or fourth tier cities the local government can't afford the sort of intensive training required for a job like that but also those teams are always being sent on drug raids or things like that because there just aren't any incidents that would justify the existence of the teams otherwise. But sending a SWAT team into a situation that isn't already violent is just a terrible idea and US army forces, for instance, make an effort to avoid late night raids in a way that I wish our law enforcement community would follow.