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History 101: humanity doesn't learn from history

by vdfs 6y ago

disease 6y ago
It learns something for 40-60 years before forgetting it again.
- metalliqaz 6y ago
  just about two generations... about what i'd expect
- vezycash 6y ago
  >It learns something for 40-60 years before forgetting it again More like those who are DIRECTLY affected by the event MIGHT learn. Those who hear about it don't learn because, "Ours is different." It's like humans are hypocritical beings, most who can't tell that they are.
dougk16 6y ago
To summarize the major issue, we're taught in schools the results of something like Nazi Germany, 6 million died in camps, Hitler was a psychopath, etc., all the details of how horrible it was and how we can never let it happen again. What we're not taught are the methodical psychological operations implemented over decades on at least 2 or 3 generations that lead up to a situation where an entire country could be fooled or intimidated into allowing such horrors to occur. If we were taught the causes and not the symptoms then I dare say history would be harder to repeat. Go read Mein Kampf, 1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, it's all there. The methods are extremely simple, it's just the level of psychopathy in our ruling class that is hard for people to accept.
- TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
  Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propagandist, was a master at his craft.
- rbecker 6y ago
  > we're taught in schools the results of something like Nazi Germany, 6 million died in camps You're taught poorly. 11 million died: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#cite_note-USHMMfigures-4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#cite_note-USHMMf...
  - dougk16 6y ago
    I'll take that as a compliment. Indeed I was "taught" poorly and so educated myself. If you're trying to prevent repeating history it doesn't matter as much what the number is. It matters how you allow a society to get to those kinds of numbers.

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History 101: humanity doesn't learn from history

by vdfs 6y ago

History 101: humanity doesn't learn from history

disease 6y ago
It learns something for 40-60 years before forgetting it again.
- metalliqaz 6y ago
  just about two generations... about what i'd expect
- vezycash 6y ago
  >It learns something for 40-60 years before forgetting it again More like those who are DIRECTLY affected by the event MIGHT learn. Those who hear about it don't learn because, "Ours is different." It's like humans are hypocritical beings, most who can't tell that they are.
dougk16 6y ago
To summarize the major issue, we're taught in schools the results of something like Nazi Germany, 6 million died in camps, Hitler was a psychopath, etc., all the details of how horrible it was and how we can never let it happen again. What we're not taught are the methodical psychological operations implemented over decades on at least 2 or 3 generations that lead up to a situation where an entire country could be fooled or intimidated into allowing such horrors to occur. If we were taught the causes and not the symptoms then I dare say history would be harder to repeat. Go read Mein Kampf, 1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, it's all there. The methods are extremely simple, it's just the level of psychopathy in our ruling class that is hard for people to accept.
- TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
  Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propagandist, was a master at his craft.
- rbecker 6y ago
  > we're taught in schools the results of something like Nazi Germany, 6 million died in camps You're taught poorly. 11 million died: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#cite_note-USHMMfigures-4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#cite_note-USHMMf...
  - dougk16 6y ago
    I'll take that as a compliment. Indeed I was "taught" poorly and so educated myself. If you're trying to prevent repeating history it doesn't matter as much what the number is. It matters how you allow a society to get to those kinds of numbers.