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> Keep in mind, it isn't easy to suddenly and accidentally get thrown in jail. Have you not paid attention to any protest in the US whatsoever in the past 10-1

by mtgx 6y ago

> Keep in mind, it isn't easy to suddenly and accidentally get thrown in jail. Have you not paid attention to any protest in the US whatsoever in the past 10-15 years? It's VERY easy to get thrown in jail, even when judges have ruled mere months before that it's illegal for police to keep arresting protesters.

sokoloff 6y ago
A ruling that you can’t be arrested for protesting does not mean you can’t be arrested while protesting. Batter a cop? You’re probably going for a ride even if you were at a protest, which seems fairly reasonable.
- Broken_Hippo 6y ago
  We have plenty of examples of peaceful people being arrested, though. Including journalists. All you really have to do is be there, and then you can be taken in with a slew of excuses.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    What solution would you propose? That protests are 100% ironclad arrest-free zones? That seems...unworkable.
    - Broken_Hippo 6y ago
      There is more than one way to handle protests. You can stand by and observe, only really going in when something is amiss... or show up in riot gear as your first option. The second choice has been the choice with BLM protests - but is rarely the choice with, say, anti-abortion activists. And you know, I don't get it: If an African-American man can keep his cool while having to police an KKK march, why can't cops in general keep their cool with these? Part of the issue is that folks are protesting the police themselves - namely, the systematic and blatant racism and police violence. The prudent measure, minimally, would be to have a background presence since they've not actually jumped on the chance to make real change. The Rodney King riots happened in 1992: We've had decades to try to change the face of policing. If anything, perhaps we should have started real change after any one of the incidences. Changed police immunity. Required more training. Try to reduce officer stress and weed out folks that were racist. Abolish police gangs. But that's much harder, and won't stop a protest while it is happening. But it would actually stop them.
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by mtgx 6y ago

sokoloff 6y ago

A ruling that you can’t be arrested for protesting does not mean you can’t be arrested while protesting. Batter a cop? You’re probably going for a ride even if you were at a protest, which seems fairly reasonable.

Broken_Hippo 6y ago
We have plenty of examples of peaceful people being arrested, though. Including journalists. All you really have to do is be there, and then you can be taken in with a slew of excuses.
- sokoloff 6y ago
  What solution would you propose? That protests are 100% ironclad arrest-free zones? That seems...unworkable.
  - Broken_Hippo 6y ago
    There is more than one way to handle protests. You can stand by and observe, only really going in when something is amiss... or show up in riot gear as your first option. The second choice has been the choice with BLM protests - but is rarely the choice with, say, anti-abortion activists. And you know, I don't get it: If an African-American man can keep his cool while having to police an KKK march, why can't cops in general keep their cool with these? Part of the issue is that folks are protesting the police themselves - namely, the systematic and blatant racism and police violence. The prudent measure, minimally, would be to have a background presence since they've not actually jumped on the chance to make real change. The Rodney King riots happened in 1992: We've had decades to try to change the face of policing. If anything, perhaps we should have started real change after any one of the incidences. Changed police immunity. Required more training. Try to reduce officer stress and weed out folks that were racist. Abolish police gangs. But that's much harder, and won't stop a protest while it is happening. But it would actually stop them.
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