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What is the alternative? Something worse? It’s on the ballot in California but it’s probably not what you want. (https://www.theleaguesf.org/#Prop25 https://ww

What is the alternative? Something worse? It’s on the ballot in California but it’s probably not what you want. (https://www.theleaguesf.org/#Prop25 https://www.theleaguesf.org/#Prop25)

TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
Here in Australia bail is determined based on the severity of the charges and the likelihood of you being guilty and / or a flight risk. Your wider point stands though: there's little reason to believe a replacement system instituted by the US Government would be better than the current one.
- nobody9999 6y ago
  >Your wider point stands though: there's little reason to believe a replacement system instituted by the US Government would be better than the current one. The US government doesn't set bail policy for the states or localities, only for defendants in federal courts[5]. In fact, such policies differ significantly from state to state[`0], county to county and even town to town. Here's an example of the recently reformed bail system in New York[1], which differs significantly from its neighbor states New Jersey[2] and Connecticut[3] A higher level view can be seen here[4]. [0] https://knowledgecenter.csg.org/kc/content/time-bail-cash-bail-growing-number-states-are-scrutinizing-current-systems-and-exploring https://knowledgecenter.csg.org/kc/content/time-bail-cash-ba... [1] https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-yorks-latest-bail-law-changes-explained https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-... [2] https://njcourts.gov/courts/criminal/reform.html https://njcourts.gov/courts/criminal/reform.html [3] https://www.jud.ct.gov/cssd/bail_faq.htm https://www.jud.ct.gov/cssd/bail_faq.htm [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail_in_the_United_States [5] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3142 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3142
tyrust 6y ago
A less slanted summary of Prop 25: https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_25,_Replace_Cash_Bail_with_Risk_Assessments_Referendum_(2020) https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_25,_Replace_C...
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What is the alternative? Something worse? It’s on the ballot in California but it’s probably not what you want. (https://www.theleaguesf.org/#Prop25 https://www.theleaguesf.org/#Prop25)

TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago

Here in Australia bail is determined based on the severity of the charges and the likelihood of you being guilty and / or a flight risk. Your wider point stands though: there's little reason to believe a replacement system instituted by the US Government would be better than the current one.

nobody9999 6y ago
>Your wider point stands though: there's little reason to believe a replacement system instituted by the US Government would be better than the current one. The US government doesn't set bail policy for the states or localities, only for defendants in federal courts[5]. In fact, such policies differ significantly from state to state[`0], county to county and even town to town. Here's an example of the recently reformed bail system in New York[1], which differs significantly from its neighbor states New Jersey[2] and Connecticut[3] A higher level view can be seen here[4]. [0] https://knowledgecenter.csg.org/kc/content/time-bail-cash-bail-growing-number-states-are-scrutinizing-current-systems-and-exploring https://knowledgecenter.csg.org/kc/content/time-bail-cash-ba... [1] https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-yorks-latest-bail-law-changes-explained https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-... [2] https://njcourts.gov/courts/criminal/reform.html https://njcourts.gov/courts/criminal/reform.html [3] https://www.jud.ct.gov/cssd/bail_faq.htm https://www.jud.ct.gov/cssd/bail_faq.htm [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail_in_the_United_States [5] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3142 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3142

tyrust 6y ago

A less slanted summary of Prop 25: https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_25,_Replace_Cash_Bail_with_Risk_Assessments_Referendum_(2020) https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_25,_Replace_C...

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