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I built an iPhone game with Scheme, and I have to say, it was the best debugging/development environment I've ever had.

by jlongster 16y ago

naner 16y ago
Ever used smalltalk?
city41 16y ago
Can you elaborate? Is the game in the app store? Github? What dev environment did you use?
- logjam 16y ago
  There is a small list of games (and other applications) written using Gambit-C Scheme at: http://dynamo.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/wiki/index.php/Real-world_software_and_services#Games http://dynamo.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/wiki/index.php/Real-w...
- jlongster 16y ago
  Here is an example project on github: https://github.com/jlongster/gambit-iphone-example https://github.com/jlongster/gambit-iphone-example I used Emacs which spawned a REPL connected to a live instance of the app and developed from there. Meaning, the app was running in the simulator/device, and I could evaluate code and instantly see changes.
Vekz 16y ago
jlongster I was closely following your blog posts about Gambit-scheme on the iphone and was even inspired to try it myself. However this was shortly before Apple changed the developer agreement to add the "stuff that compiles to objective c is not acceptable" clause. It appears as you have discontinued this project. Was that clause the reason? here is his blog for reference: http://jlongster.com/legacy/scheme-iphone-apps.html http://jlongster.com/legacy/scheme-iphone-apps.html
- euccastro 16y ago
  FWIW, Gambit C compiles to C, not to Objective C. I'm not sure that makes a difference, though.
- jlongster 16y ago
  It wasn't the main reason, but certainly didn't encourage me to keep working on it. I burned out on Scheme and not having a large community of developers, but I'm starting to work on things again, but not iPhone apps.
mkilling 16y ago
Did you ever try Chicken? I'm curious about how it compares to Gambit.
- jlongster 16y ago
  I have yet to develop much in Chicken, but I've looked at it closely. It works on a different philosophy, one of more practicality (and less elegance). Because of that, it's matured a lot, and it has tons of libraries which is a huge benefit. Gambit is more lean and portable, good for uses like compiling to the iPhone (that would be much harder for Chicken). That said, I would probably use Chicken for my next project.

I built an iPhone game with Scheme, and I have to say, it was the best debugging/development environment I've ever had.

naner 16y ago

Ever used smalltalk?

city41 16y ago

Can you elaborate? Is the game in the app store? Github? What dev environment did you use?

logjam 16y ago
There is a small list of games (and other applications) written using Gambit-C Scheme at: http://dynamo.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/wiki/index.php/Real-world_software_and_services#Games http://dynamo.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/wiki/index.php/Real-w...
jlongster 16y ago
Here is an example project on github: https://github.com/jlongster/gambit-iphone-example https://github.com/jlongster/gambit-iphone-example I used Emacs which spawned a REPL connected to a live instance of the app and developed from there. Meaning, the app was running in the simulator/device, and I could evaluate code and instantly see changes.

Vekz 16y ago

jlongster I was closely following your blog posts about Gambit-scheme on the iphone and was even inspired to try it myself. However this was shortly before Apple changed the developer agreement to add the "stuff that compiles to objective c is not acceptable" clause. It appears as you have discontinued this project. Was that clause the reason? here is his blog for reference: http://jlongster.com/legacy/scheme-iphone-apps.html http://jlongster.com/legacy/scheme-iphone-apps.html

euccastro 16y ago
FWIW, Gambit C compiles to C, not to Objective C. I'm not sure that makes a difference, though.
jlongster 16y ago
It wasn't the main reason, but certainly didn't encourage me to keep working on it. I burned out on Scheme and not having a large community of developers, but I'm starting to work on things again, but not iPhone apps.

mkilling 16y ago

Did you ever try Chicken? I'm curious about how it compares to Gambit.

jlongster 16y ago
I have yet to develop much in Chicken, but I've looked at it closely. It works on a different philosophy, one of more practicality (and less elegance). Because of that, it's matured a lot, and it has tons of libraries which is a huge benefit. Gambit is more lean and portable, good for uses like compiling to the iPhone (that would be much harder for Chicken). That said, I would probably use Chicken for my next project.