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Yeah, am a Rust beginner but very proficient in Python, and despite having being warned of Rust community's zealotry, I haven't found interacting with them anyt

Yeah, am a Rust beginner but very proficient in Python, and despite having being warned of Rust community's zealotry, I haven't found interacting with them anything but pleasant. The documentation is great. Various channels to interact with the community have always been polite and helpful. Heck, one would think that the author of a leading book on the language popping up everywhere to give helpful answers/clarifications would be seen as welcome and not in-your-face-activism.

pixel_fcker 6y ago
I honestly can’t remember ever seeing any zealotry (apart from obvious trolls on reddit) but any thread on rust will have at least one person complain about rust zealots. It’s just a meme at this point.
fellellor 6y ago
I have a question about the English language here? Is “anything but pleasant” a positive? Doesn’t it mean anything else (like unpleasant, horrible etc), but pleasant?
- acomar 6y ago
  there's a negation preceding that.
- Jetrel 6y ago
  That is correct. The original poster was saying that generally cults will be rather unpleasant for most mid<->lower level members, but are pleasant for the people at the top (generally by extracting value from those lower-level members, whether it's labor, money, or sexual favors). This seems a bit counterintuitive, of course - "if it's unpleasant, why the hell wouldn't they leave?". Usually cults have coercive tools that either make it difficult for someone to leave, or manage to brainwash them into believing they would be more unhappy outside of the cult.
- rotifer 6y ago
  The phrase "anything but X" means the opposite of X (e.g. see [1]). So, "anything but pleasant" means "unpleasant". I think the commenter just used it incorrectly. [1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/anything-but https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/anything... Edit: acomar points out that the "haven't" negates what follows, so interpret what I wrote above as "the phrase on its own means not X".
  - hannofcart 6y ago
    Sorry about the weird phrasing. I did mean that I have always "found it pleasant" dealing with the Rust community. I'm appalled at myself for the silly manner in which I phrased that. I guess I intended to say: "I have found it nothing but pleasant", but instead ended up tying myself up in knots.
- xigoi 6y ago
  “But” used as a preposition means “except”, so this says “the community isn't anything other than pleasant”.

pixel_fcker 6y ago

I honestly can’t remember ever seeing any zealotry (apart from obvious trolls on reddit) but any thread on rust will have at least one person complain about rust zealots. It’s just a meme at this point.

fellellor 6y ago

I have a question about the English language here? Is “anything but pleasant” a positive? Doesn’t it mean anything else (like unpleasant, horrible etc), but pleasant?

acomar 6y ago
there's a negation preceding that.
Jetrel 6y ago
That is correct. The original poster was saying that generally cults will be rather unpleasant for most mid<->lower level members, but are pleasant for the people at the top (generally by extracting value from those lower-level members, whether it's labor, money, or sexual favors). This seems a bit counterintuitive, of course - "if it's unpleasant, why the hell wouldn't they leave?". Usually cults have coercive tools that either make it difficult for someone to leave, or manage to brainwash them into believing they would be more unhappy outside of the cult.
rotifer 6y ago
The phrase "anything but X" means the opposite of X (e.g. see [1]). So, "anything but pleasant" means "unpleasant". I think the commenter just used it incorrectly. [1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/anything-but https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/anything... Edit: acomar points out that the "haven't" negates what follows, so interpret what I wrote above as "the phrase on its own means not X".
- hannofcart 6y ago
  Sorry about the weird phrasing. I did mean that I have always "found it pleasant" dealing with the Rust community. I'm appalled at myself for the silly manner in which I phrased that. I guess I intended to say: "I have found it nothing but pleasant", but instead ended up tying myself up in knots.
xigoi 6y ago
“But” used as a preposition means “except”, so this says “the community isn't anything other than pleasant”.