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Ignores the price of inconsistent delivery and the inevitable huge costs of batteries and/or gas peaking plants to supplement the inconsistent power from wind.
by 0xy 6y ago
Ignores the price of inconsistent delivery and the inevitable huge costs of batteries and/or gas peaking plants to supplement the inconsistent power from wind.
Nobody ever factors in these costs to the price of solar or wind, and I find it extremely disingenuous. Nuclear can still be pumping power on a windless sunless day with 100% green energy.
Solar and wind? Either use batteries (expensive, not really renewable) or gas peaking plants (nearly worse than coal, not renewable, expensive).
- 7952 6y agoWell actually a lot of people think about this kind of thing all the time. There is an entire market and industry dedicated to power grids. Sure, that price is not a complete picture. But does any price completely encapsulate externalities? But that low price is extremely positive.
- pydry 6y ago>Nobody ever factors in these costs to the price of solar or wind, and I find it extremely disingenuous. Speaking of extremely disingenuous, I already shared a study on exactly that in this thread 4 hours before you wrote your comment. Here it is again: https://neon.energy/Hirth-Ueckerdt-Edenhofer-2015-Integration-Costs-Revisited-Framework-Wind-Solar-Variability.pdf https://neon.energy/Hirth-Ueckerdt-Edenhofer-2015-Integratio... Sincerely, Nobody