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How to bikes protect people better than enclosed vehicles?

cecja 6y ago
Traffic is low that's why they opened the whole road instead of just a small space on the sides of it. More space between the bikers means more protection...
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  I think it's more about public transport. In the UK at least everything would grind to a halt in cities if everybody moved from buses and trains to cars. There just isn't enough capcity so local government are doing whatever they can to avoid that.
II2II 6y ago
Many people cannot afford to drive and cities cannot afford to provide infrastructure for everyone to drive. That means alternative modes of transportation must be available. Traditionally, that has been mass transit. Mass transit is not the most desirable mode of transportation during a pandemic.
okr 6y ago
They do not. And many of us hope, that they will go away. And i hope, the city can afford to invest in a separate bike infrastructure. Maybe with quicker e-bikes and scooters even. As a cyclist i am super annoyed by cars. As a pedestrian i am super annoyed by cyclists on the side walk, ignoring all the rules. And as a car user, well, we all know how traffic jams are and how cyclists come out of nowhere. It is all being politicized at the moment. And in winter only a few hardcore bikers put the effort to dress up to get to the office, which, in corona times, are anyways not the best place to be. I really dislike how they created those popup bikelanes. And will redirect my vote to parties, which put jobs and recovery first. I rather walk than to support this uncoordinated nonsense. But hey, thats me. :)
- andor 6y ago
  > And in winter only a few hardcore bikers put the effort to dress up to get to the office Fewer people ride in Winter than Summer, but it's not a hardcore thing to do. Berlin is only really cold for 2-3 weeks per year and it doesn't rain much. Why do you think the popup lanes are nonsense?
nicbou 6y ago
I meant that it helped distancing on the narrow bike paths. It's not unusual to have a line of bikes at a red light. It's also meant to encourage biking instead of public transportation, which is what the majority uses to get around.

Traffic is low that's why they opened the whole road instead of just a small space on the sides of it. More space between the bikers means more protection...

tonyedgecombe 6y ago
I think it's more about public transport. In the UK at least everything would grind to a halt in cities if everybody moved from buses and trains to cars. There just isn't enough capcity so local government are doing whatever they can to avoid that.

II2II 6y ago

Many people cannot afford to drive and cities cannot afford to provide infrastructure for everyone to drive. That means alternative modes of transportation must be available. Traditionally, that has been mass transit. Mass transit is not the most desirable mode of transportation during a pandemic.

okr 6y ago

They do not. And many of us hope, that they will go away. And i hope, the city can afford to invest in a separate bike infrastructure. Maybe with quicker e-bikes and scooters even. As a cyclist i am super annoyed by cars. As a pedestrian i am super annoyed by cyclists on the side walk, ignoring all the rules. And as a car user, well, we all know how traffic jams are and how cyclists come out of nowhere. It is all being politicized at the moment. And in winter only a few hardcore bikers put the effort to dress up to get to the office, which, in corona times, are anyways not the best place to be. I really dislike how they created those popup bikelanes. And will redirect my vote to parties, which put jobs and recovery first. I rather walk than to support this uncoordinated nonsense. But hey, thats me. :)

andor 6y ago
> And in winter only a few hardcore bikers put the effort to dress up to get to the office Fewer people ride in Winter than Summer, but it's not a hardcore thing to do. Berlin is only really cold for 2-3 weeks per year and it doesn't rain much. Why do you think the popup lanes are nonsense?

nicbou 6y ago

I meant that it helped distancing on the narrow bike paths. It's not unusual to have a line of bikes at a red light. It's also meant to encourage biking instead of public transportation, which is what the majority uses to get around.