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> Cirne’s wife is a contributor to President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign, another sore point for many New Relic employees even though she has no role wit

> Cirne’s wife is a contributor to President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign, another sore point for many New Relic employees even though she has no role with the company...They see his wife’s donations to Trump as antithetical to the company’s stated values... What do the employees want to happen? Cirne to divorce or publicly condemn his wife over political contributions? He can't forbid someone else from making political contributions.

barumi 6y ago
> What do the employees want to happen? Cirne to divorce or publicly condemn his wife over political contributions? This wouldn't be the first case where donations were made through an illusory third-party for the sake of plausible deniability.
- robertlagrant 6y ago
  Sigh. Speculation.
  - barumi 6y ago
    > Sigh. Speculation. Not speculation, it's a pretty clear refutation of the hypothesis that channeling a donation through a third-party severs all links between the contribution and those who actually make the contribution.
seppin 6y ago
I find people using the framing of "what you can't have political beliefs" as a red herring in the age of Trump. Supporting Nixon at his most criminal and paranoid wasn't acceptable then, and it's not now.
- seppin 6y ago
  Great this website has anonymously deputized users that can downvote comments without reason or explanation. Does wonders for transparency in quality control.
bigbubba 6y ago
I suppose these complaining employees have a very regressive mindset in which it's a man's role to boss around his wife...
- bmarquez 6y ago
  Agreed. I was previously getting downvoted on the basis of mentioning Trump, but that wasn't the point...this was.
thatswrong0 6y ago
He could at the very least state that his wife's political views are not a reflection of his own. Sure, it's speculation, but I would guess that, given his other questionable donations, he probably isn't opposed to his wife's political donations. IMO this, along with a few other choice quotes from the article [0][1], indicate to me that he's neither an inspiring nor effective leader. He blames his employees rather than himself for the failings of the company, and he blames his employees for combative discourse rather than his own actions and donations. Yuck. Sidenote, the rush to his defense in this comment section is nothing short of odd. [0]: "It is clear that some of you are devoting more energy and attention inwards, than towards our customers.” [1]: Two days later Cirne sent a scolding memo to the entire company, admonishing employees to work harder and warning that New Relic was trailing competitors.
- bigbubba 6y ago
  > He could at the very least state that his wife's political views are not a reflection of his own. It's unreasonable to expect somebody to publicly denounce their spouse like this. It's inappropriate for people to make a coworker's spouse a matter of contention in the first place.
  - thatswrong0 6y ago
    That's not denouncing. That's a neutral way of stating that he had nothing to do with those donations. And stop pretending that this is just any ordinary coworker. This is the public face and leader of the company that publicly advertises a certain set of values. This is also a person who has been made rich by the success of the company, and then is using that money to donate to very morally questionable causes (either directly himself or via his wife). The guy literally donated an "ordinary coworker's" years salary to an organization that explicitly discriminates against members of the LGBTQ+ community. Do tell me exactly why it is inappropriate for employees of the company to complain about such dubious donations of their CEO, who they helped make mind-numbingly rich?
    - bigbubba 6y ago

barumi 6y ago

> What do the employees want to happen? Cirne to divorce or publicly condemn his wife over political contributions? This wouldn't be the first case where donations were made through an illusory third-party for the sake of plausible deniability.

robertlagrant 6y ago
Sigh. Speculation.
- barumi 6y ago
  > Sigh. Speculation. Not speculation, it's a pretty clear refutation of the hypothesis that channeling a donation through a third-party severs all links between the contribution and those who actually make the contribution.

seppin 6y ago

I find people using the framing of "what you can't have political beliefs" as a red herring in the age of Trump. Supporting Nixon at his most criminal and paranoid wasn't acceptable then, and it's not now.

seppin 6y ago
Great this website has anonymously deputized users that can downvote comments without reason or explanation. Does wonders for transparency in quality control.

bigbubba 6y ago

I suppose these complaining employees have a very regressive mindset in which it's a man's role to boss around his wife...

bmarquez 6y ago
Agreed. I was previously getting downvoted on the basis of mentioning Trump, but that wasn't the point...this was.

thatswrong0 6y ago

He could at the very least state that his wife's political views are not a reflection of his own. Sure, it's speculation, but I would guess that, given his other questionable donations, he probably isn't opposed to his wife's political donations. IMO this, along with a few other choice quotes from the article [0][1], indicate to me that he's neither an inspiring nor effective leader. He blames his employees rather than himself for the failings of the company, and he blames his employees for combative discourse rather than his own actions and donations. Yuck. Sidenote, the rush to his defense in this comment section is nothing short of odd. [0]: "It is clear that some of you are devoting more energy and attention inwards, than towards our customers.” [1]: Two days later Cirne sent a scolding memo to the entire company, admonishing employees to work harder and warning that New Relic was trailing competitors.

bigbubba 6y ago
> He could at the very least state that his wife's political views are not a reflection of his own. It's unreasonable to expect somebody to publicly denounce their spouse like this. It's inappropriate for people to make a coworker's spouse a matter of contention in the first place.
- thatswrong0 6y ago
  That's not denouncing. That's a neutral way of stating that he had nothing to do with those donations. And stop pretending that this is just any ordinary coworker. This is the public face and leader of the company that publicly advertises a certain set of values. This is also a person who has been made rich by the success of the company, and then is using that money to donate to very morally questionable causes (either directly himself or via his wife). The guy literally donated an "ordinary coworker's" years salary to an organization that explicitly discriminates against members of the LGBTQ+ community. Do tell me exactly why it is inappropriate for employees of the company to complain about such dubious donations of their CEO, who they helped make mind-numbingly rich?
  - bigbubba 6y ago