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Green New Deal isn’t an energy or environmental program. It is a greenwashed policy proposal that includes essentially the entire far left’s agenda - it uses th

Green New Deal isn’t an energy or environmental program. It is a greenwashed policy proposal that includes essentially the entire far left’s agenda - it uses the word “justice” affixed to many different causes and the cause of environmental protection (rebranded as “environmental justice”) and a dose of mental gymnastics to drag in many unrelated policy proposals that are part of either the social justice or socialist agenda. If we want to expedite environmental protection, what we need is an unbundling of individual policy proposals from GND, which will speed up adoption of the pieces that matter (like supporting nuclear energy) without all the controversial social justice or socialist cruft riding on it.

icebraining 6y ago
> the entire far left’s agenda Or as the rest of the world calls it, center's agenda. The actual far-left is pretty critical of the GND: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/03/05/deal-m05.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/03/05/deal-m05.html
- throwawaysea 6y ago
  The “rest of the world” doesn’t call it the “center’s agenda” in my observation - what are you basing that on? I have noticed there is a tendency on HN to treat Scandinavian countries with small homogeneous populations as “the rest of the world”, ignoring other nations out there as well as the diversity of opinions within Scandinavian countries. In my view, the far left - as far as those in the center are concerned - is “progressives” in America (and their equivalents elsewhere): those pushing for equity (equality of outcomes instead of equality of opportunity), those using a victim/oppression narrative as a foundation for every political position, those seeking collectivist society/policy instead of individualist perspectives, etc. There is room for relativism certainly, but characterizing the GND as the “center” is not just without evidence but in conflict with the reality of political cultures around the world.

icebraining 6y ago

> the entire far left’s agenda Or as the rest of the world calls it, center's agenda. The actual far-left is pretty critical of the GND: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/03/05/deal-m05.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/03/05/deal-m05.html

throwawaysea 6y ago
The “rest of the world” doesn’t call it the “center’s agenda” in my observation - what are you basing that on? I have noticed there is a tendency on HN to treat Scandinavian countries with small homogeneous populations as “the rest of the world”, ignoring other nations out there as well as the diversity of opinions within Scandinavian countries. In my view, the far left - as far as those in the center are concerned - is “progressives” in America (and their equivalents elsewhere): those pushing for equity (equality of outcomes instead of equality of opportunity), those using a victim/oppression narrative as a foundation for every political position, those seeking collectivist society/policy instead of individualist perspectives, etc. There is room for relativism certainly, but characterizing the GND as the “center” is not just without evidence but in conflict with the reality of political cultures around the world.