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> Don't want your domain seized by the US? then don't use a TLD owned by the US to engage in anti-US activities. ICANN is based in the US so they can theoretic

> Don't want your domain seized by the US? then don't use a TLD owned by the US to engage in anti-US activities. ICANN is based in the US so they can theoretically turn off any domain they want. Also are you suggesting it's OK for the US to shutdown any website engaging in whatever the US government defines as "anti-US activities?" > Have we already forgotten Iran and their calls for death to America? I'd love to see the proof you have that these websites were bannering "death to America" across their websites. Unless you have some special knowledge about the situation I don't, I think we can safely say we don't know if any of the accusations the US is making about these websites are even true.

jeremyjh 6y ago
> ICANN is based in the US so they can turn off any website they want. Please tell us more about this. Which ir and ru domains have been seized by the US lately?
- vmception 6y ago
  They can and exercise a lot of discretion in not doing so. It has nothing to do with the legal authority, which they can also rationalize, feel free to come to the US and appeal in court. The internet being administered by US corporations makes them easily compellable and any property they steward can be seized despite being for the benefit of foreign citizens and non-residents.
- jameslk 6y ago
  Which law prevents them from doing it?
jariel 6y ago
"I'd love to see the proof you have that these websites were bannering "death to America" across their websites." ??? 'Death to America' is a common refrain used by officials of the Iranian Revolution. Literally here is the Ayatollah's justification for it [1], as if a dark comedy come to life. That anyone would ask for 'evidence', heyzeus. Also, here's Amnesty International's assessment on the regimes arbitrary murder of 300 dissidents during a minor uprising recently. [2] [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/03/ayatollah-khamenei-iran-death-to-america https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/03/ayatollah-kham... [2] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/05/iran-details-released-of-304-deaths-during-protests-six-months-after-security-forces-killing-spree/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/05/iran-details-...
- vkou 6y ago
  Just like how anti-China rhetoric in the US (allegedly) refers to opposition to the CCP, anti-American sentiment in Iran refers to opposition to the US regime (which isn't shy about its anti-Iranian sentiment, in a similar vein.) At least, that's what anti-_____ folks tell me.
  - jariel 6y ago
    'Anti'? 'Anti' is fine, it happens everywhere all the time. You're conflating 'mass murder those people' (i.e. US, Israel) with regular, 'anti-xyz' rhetoric. If the Islamic Revolution in Iran were merely 'anti-whatever', there would be no problem, no web sites torn down no sanctions, and their citizens would be wealthy, successful. But that won't happen until they are gone. Gosh, maybe they could hold an election and see what happens.
IncRnd 6y ago
> Unless you have some special knowledge about the situation I don't, I think we can safely say we don't know if any of the accusations the US is making about these websites are even true. Just read the article and scan some of the websites in a cache. Reading your comment, after reading the US's claim in the article, and looking at the websites, leads me to believe your comment is straight disinformation. US claim, "Today, we successfully seized 92 domains involved in a disinformation campaign conducted by Iran-based actors to promote pro-Iranian propaganda." Looking at a cross-section of the domains in archive.org, shows them to contain one-sided and incomplete information.
2OEH8eoCRo0 6y ago
Alternately, should ICANN be barred from ever turning off any domain for any reason whatsoever?
2OEH8eoCRo0 6y ago
Alternately, should ICANN be barred from ever turning off any domain for any reason whatsoever? Why would you want ICANNs freedom to be trampled?

jeremyjh 6y ago

> ICANN is based in the US so they can turn off any website they want. Please tell us more about this. Which ir and ru domains have been seized by the US lately?

vmception 6y ago
They can and exercise a lot of discretion in not doing so. It has nothing to do with the legal authority, which they can also rationalize, feel free to come to the US and appeal in court. The internet being administered by US corporations makes them easily compellable and any property they steward can be seized despite being for the benefit of foreign citizens and non-residents.
jameslk 6y ago
Which law prevents them from doing it?

jariel 6y ago

"I'd love to see the proof you have that these websites were bannering "death to America" across their websites." ??? 'Death to America' is a common refrain used by officials of the Iranian Revolution. Literally here is the Ayatollah's justification for it [1], as if a dark comedy come to life. That anyone would ask for 'evidence', heyzeus. Also, here's Amnesty International's assessment on the regimes arbitrary murder of 300 dissidents during a minor uprising recently. [2] [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/03/ayatollah-khamenei-iran-death-to-america https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/03/ayatollah-kham... [2] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/05/iran-details-released-of-304-deaths-during-protests-six-months-after-security-forces-killing-spree/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/05/iran-details-...

vkou 6y ago
Just like how anti-China rhetoric in the US (allegedly) refers to opposition to the CCP, anti-American sentiment in Iran refers to opposition to the US regime (which isn't shy about its anti-Iranian sentiment, in a similar vein.) At least, that's what anti-_____ folks tell me.
- jariel 6y ago
  'Anti'? 'Anti' is fine, it happens everywhere all the time. You're conflating 'mass murder those people' (i.e. US, Israel) with regular, 'anti-xyz' rhetoric. If the Islamic Revolution in Iran were merely 'anti-whatever', there would be no problem, no web sites torn down no sanctions, and their citizens would be wealthy, successful. But that won't happen until they are gone. Gosh, maybe they could hold an election and see what happens.

IncRnd 6y ago

> Unless you have some special knowledge about the situation I don't, I think we can safely say we don't know if any of the accusations the US is making about these websites are even true. Just read the article and scan some of the websites in a cache. Reading your comment, after reading the US's claim in the article, and looking at the websites, leads me to believe your comment is straight disinformation. US claim, "Today, we successfully seized 92 domains involved in a disinformation campaign conducted by Iran-based actors to promote pro-Iranian propaganda." Looking at a cross-section of the domains in archive.org, shows them to contain one-sided and incomplete information.

2OEH8eoCRo0 6y ago

Alternately, should ICANN be barred from ever turning off any domain for any reason whatsoever?

2OEH8eoCRo0 6y ago

Alternately, should ICANN be barred from ever turning off any domain for any reason whatsoever? Why would you want ICANNs freedom to be trampled?