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> [West Wing] tested “extremely well” with certain audience segments. Among them: households that earned more than $75,000 a year, households with at least one

> [West Wing] tested “extremely well” with certain audience segments. Among them: households that earned more than $75,000 a year, households with at least one college graduate and households that subscribed to The New York Times. Ah: white, liberal households. I’m the first to say that not everything should be about politics, but I’ve always strongly associated that show with the left. I’ve never heard a conservative reference it at all. Honestly, this seems like a pretty transparent attempt to let readers of the NYT feel good about themselves.

philwelch 6y ago
The West Wing is definitely an idealized version of 00’s-era Democrat politics. I think largely because Democrats envision their ideal government and presidency as a bunch of clever, earnest staffers running around outsmarting everyone else. Conservatives during the 00’s more strongly identified with 24, a universe where politicians and bureaucrats were sometimes virtuous, sometimes corrupt, and sometimes evil, but the hero was Jack Bauer, one of the rough men who stands ready to do violence on our behalf as we sleep soundly in our beds, usually in a very literal sense.
- 082349872349872 6y ago
  On the other hand, Don Camillo was a post-war italian priest who was always at odds with the post-war communist mayor, but by the end of every story they've managed to work together to do what's right for their village.
- bgorman 6y ago
  President Obama, was a fan of the show "Homeland", created by the makers of 24. The plot of homeland concerns a stereotypical arab terrorist organization infiltrating the US government and the cia's attempts to stop it. I hardly think it is fair to say that this is a "conservative" phenomenon. Members of both political parties seem have a fetish for watching federal law enforcement rough up stereotypical hollywood terrorists.
  - 082349872349872 6y ago
    Wasn't Homeland (2011) just a rewarmed חטופים‎ (2010)?
- Balgair 6y ago
  Related: Ben Shapiro's True Allegiance If you've not read it: good, keep your life that way. For the people out there that have: I'm sorry. The 'plot' is akin to 24, in that there is a good guy that kill bad guys. But the writing style, the aggressive use of exposition, the terrible dialog, and the total lack of logic in scene construction make the book just terrible. The part where the protagonist blinks out the message "Airstrike now. 35 41 46 N / 51 25 23 E" (the coordinates for Tehran) is comically unrealistic. If you actually put that into morse code you get : .- .. .-. ... - .-. .. -.- . / -. --- .-- .-.-.- / ...-- ..... / ....- .---- / ....- -.... / -. / -..-. / ..... .---- / ..--- ..... / ..--- ...-- / . You try blinking that out. I've no idea who his editor was or who his ghostwriter is, but good Lord, Ben really needs to get better at spotting grifters. That book is hot garbage.
  - jimmygrapes 6y ago
    Interestingly I tried to blink that out and ran into a problem: how do I represent a pause or break with blinking? This made me wonder how it would be done with other Morse code transmitters, and though I haven't yet looked it up anywhere it seems to me that Morse code might not be the binary I always assumed it was, but more trinary: dot, dash, break. Something I will look into more now, thanks.
loco5niner 6y ago
Well, I'm only a couple of seasons in, love it, and am a conservative (although I do fall into all the other categories). Clever dialog, entertaining, etc.

philwelch 6y ago

The West Wing is definitely an idealized version of 00’s-era Democrat politics. I think largely because Democrats envision their ideal government and presidency as a bunch of clever, earnest staffers running around outsmarting everyone else. Conservatives during the 00’s more strongly identified with 24, a universe where politicians and bureaucrats were sometimes virtuous, sometimes corrupt, and sometimes evil, but the hero was Jack Bauer, one of the rough men who stands ready to do violence on our behalf as we sleep soundly in our beds, usually in a very literal sense.

082349872349872 6y ago
On the other hand, Don Camillo was a post-war italian priest who was always at odds with the post-war communist mayor, but by the end of every story they've managed to work together to do what's right for their village.
bgorman 6y ago
President Obama, was a fan of the show "Homeland", created by the makers of 24. The plot of homeland concerns a stereotypical arab terrorist organization infiltrating the US government and the cia's attempts to stop it. I hardly think it is fair to say that this is a "conservative" phenomenon. Members of both political parties seem have a fetish for watching federal law enforcement rough up stereotypical hollywood terrorists.
- 082349872349872 6y ago
  Wasn't Homeland (2011) just a rewarmed חטופים‎ (2010)?
Balgair 6y ago
Related: Ben Shapiro's True Allegiance If you've not read it: good, keep your life that way. For the people out there that have: I'm sorry. The 'plot' is akin to 24, in that there is a good guy that kill bad guys. But the writing style, the aggressive use of exposition, the terrible dialog, and the total lack of logic in scene construction make the book just terrible. The part where the protagonist blinks out the message "Airstrike now. 35 41 46 N / 51 25 23 E" (the coordinates for Tehran) is comically unrealistic. If you actually put that into morse code you get : .- .. .-. ... - .-. .. -.- . / -. --- .-- .-.-.- / ...-- ..... / ....- .---- / ....- -.... / -. / -..-. / ..... .---- / ..--- ..... / ..--- ...-- / . You try blinking that out. I've no idea who his editor was or who his ghostwriter is, but good Lord, Ben really needs to get better at spotting grifters. That book is hot garbage.
- jimmygrapes 6y ago
  Interestingly I tried to blink that out and ran into a problem: how do I represent a pause or break with blinking? This made me wonder how it would be done with other Morse code transmitters, and though I haven't yet looked it up anywhere it seems to me that Morse code might not be the binary I always assumed it was, but more trinary: dot, dash, break. Something I will look into more now, thanks.

loco5niner 6y ago

Well, I'm only a couple of seasons in, love it, and am a conservative (although I do fall into all the other categories). Clever dialog, entertaining, etc.