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The squalene in question that's derived from sharks has been used for decades. I've never heard of it before. Only now I do when it could be used to save untold

The squalene in question that's derived from sharks has been used for decades. I've never heard of it before. Only now I do when it could be used to save untold human lives. Really?

lambdaba 6y ago
There's some info here, I had heard of it as a supplement: https://examine.com/supplements/squalene/ https://examine.com/supplements/squalene/
ahmedalsudani 6y ago
I imagine the demand shock would be much greater given the urgency. In any case, it’s perfectly valid to think through the implications of our actions and wonder about alternatives.
- graeme 6y ago
  That was my thought, but it turns out cosmetics routinely kill 2-3 million sharks per year. So instead the group is using coronavirus to bring attention to the issue. I find the ongoing cosmetics use much more disturbing, that’s a lot of sharks.
_Microft 6y ago
You seem to imply that the use for the vaccine is something extra-objectable but the shark protection project objects to its use in general [0]. Regarding your other statements: catching 20% more sharks than before [1] sounds actually newsworthy. Furthermore you will have heard of a negligible number of all the things in existence before, no matter how well-read you are - so not having heard about something is hardly an argument for anything. [0] https://www.sharkallies.com/shark-free-products/cosmetics-what-is-squalene https://www.sharkallies.com/shark-free-products/cosmetics-wh... [1] extra demand 500,000 sharks; currently caught: 2.7M sharks annually.
- yostrovs 6y ago
  I have endlessly heard of the Japanese hunting sharks and whales for their soups. You'd think the cosmetics industry would have been mentioned at some point as well.
stopthevaccine 6y ago
> Really? A vaccine is not welcome. COVID-19 is the nexus of so many good things; shutting down businesses, making people stay home, giving the Powers That Be another wonderful thing to harangue and badger everyone with, mask shaming, a great campaign issue and so many others... The threat that all of these great things might eventually end with the arrival of a vaccine has turned the establishment and its fans into anti-vaxxers. Any downside to any hypothetical vaccine, no matter how tangential or far fetched, is echoed and amplified planet wide.
dotancohen 6y ago
And the fine article even mentions that over 5 times the quantity of sharks are killed for the cosmetic industry.
- _Microft 6y ago
  The shark protection group objects to any use of shark derived squalene. The threat of even more sharks being killed serves as opportunity to focus attention on this ongoing issue.

The squalene in question that's derived from sharks has been used for decades. I've never heard of it before. Only now I do when it could be used to save untold human lives. Really?

lambdaba 6y ago

There's some info here, I had heard of it as a supplement: https://examine.com/supplements/squalene/ https://examine.com/supplements/squalene/

ahmedalsudani 6y ago

I imagine the demand shock would be much greater given the urgency. In any case, it’s perfectly valid to think through the implications of our actions and wonder about alternatives.

graeme 6y ago
That was my thought, but it turns out cosmetics routinely kill 2-3 million sharks per year. So instead the group is using coronavirus to bring attention to the issue. I find the ongoing cosmetics use much more disturbing, that’s a lot of sharks.

_Microft 6y ago

You seem to imply that the use for the vaccine is something extra-objectable but the shark protection project objects to its use in general [0]. Regarding your other statements: catching 20% more sharks than before [1] sounds actually newsworthy. Furthermore you will have heard of a negligible number of all the things in existence before, no matter how well-read you are - so not having heard about something is hardly an argument for anything. [0] https://www.sharkallies.com/shark-free-products/cosmetics-what-is-squalene https://www.sharkallies.com/shark-free-products/cosmetics-wh... [1] extra demand 500,000 sharks; currently caught: 2.7M sharks annually.

yostrovs 6y ago
I have endlessly heard of the Japanese hunting sharks and whales for their soups. You'd think the cosmetics industry would have been mentioned at some point as well.

stopthevaccine 6y ago

> Really? A vaccine is not welcome. COVID-19 is the nexus of so many good things; shutting down businesses, making people stay home, giving the Powers That Be another wonderful thing to harangue and badger everyone with, mask shaming, a great campaign issue and so many others... The threat that all of these great things might eventually end with the arrival of a vaccine has turned the establishment and its fans into anti-vaxxers. Any downside to any hypothetical vaccine, no matter how tangential or far fetched, is echoed and amplified planet wide.

dotancohen 6y ago

And the fine article even mentions that over 5 times the quantity of sharks are killed for the cosmetic industry.

_Microft 6y ago
The shark protection group objects to any use of shark derived squalene. The threat of even more sharks being killed serves as opportunity to focus attention on this ongoing issue.