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> Finally, Ruppert stresses there's a big difference between the American and Polish work cultures, and that "no one I spoke to over there saw it as crunch." I

> Finally, Ruppert stresses there's a big difference between the American and Polish work cultures, and that "no one I spoke to over there saw it as crunch." Is anyone familiar with Polish work culture or more specifically Polish game development culture? I would love to get context here.

kranner 6y ago
From the employee handbook of a Polish law firm [1]: > Generally, an employee cannot refuse to work overtime, because it is part of the employee’s duties. The PLC imposes the obligation on the employee to work conscientiously and to follow the directions of superiors on how to work, unless they are contrary to law, or the contract of employment. Legal writers and case-law of the Polish Supreme Court opine overtime can only be refused when the overtime limit on hours has been exceeded. [1] https://www.lexmundi.com/images/lexmundi/PDF/LaborEmployment/Labor_Employment_DeskBook/LaborEmployment_Poland.pdf https://www.lexmundi.com/images/lexmundi/PDF/LaborEmployment...
- mkay313 6y ago
  I would expect a lot of the CDPr employees to not be actual employees but contractors (forcing people to set up a single-person company, „jednoosobowa działalność gospodarcza”, is a poular practice here) which would put the workers in an even worse situation. At the same time, while refusing to work overtime may be a bad look at some companies, a lot of others have very strict policies on actually being able to have their overtime even classified as such (because overtime results in either extra pay or holiday time). Honestly, I don’t believe most of the developers, QAs, etc really want this crunch but they know their careers might be silently ruined if they don’t agree with those higher in the ladder.
burntoutfire 6y ago
Dunno about gamedev, but in regular software development there's very little overtime (meaning most everyone just works 40 hours per week, unless you're in a shitty/struggling company) and, if OT is needed, it usually compensated with time off work later (as opposed to extra pay).

kranner 6y ago

From the employee handbook of a Polish law firm [1]: > Generally, an employee cannot refuse to work overtime, because it is part of the employee’s duties. The PLC imposes the obligation on the employee to work conscientiously and to follow the directions of superiors on how to work, unless they are contrary to law, or the contract of employment. Legal writers and case-law of the Polish Supreme Court opine overtime can only be refused when the overtime limit on hours has been exceeded. [1] https://www.lexmundi.com/images/lexmundi/PDF/LaborEmployment/Labor_Employment_DeskBook/LaborEmployment_Poland.pdf https://www.lexmundi.com/images/lexmundi/PDF/LaborEmployment...

mkay313 6y ago
I would expect a lot of the CDPr employees to not be actual employees but contractors (forcing people to set up a single-person company, „jednoosobowa działalność gospodarcza”, is a poular practice here) which would put the workers in an even worse situation. At the same time, while refusing to work overtime may be a bad look at some companies, a lot of others have very strict policies on actually being able to have their overtime even classified as such (because overtime results in either extra pay or holiday time). Honestly, I don’t believe most of the developers, QAs, etc really want this crunch but they know their careers might be silently ruined if they don’t agree with those higher in the ladder.

burntoutfire 6y ago

Dunno about gamedev, but in regular software development there's very little overtime (meaning most everyone just works 40 hours per week, unless you're in a shitty/struggling company) and, if OT is needed, it usually compensated with time off work later (as opposed to extra pay).