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This is a link-baiting article from a link-baiting site, submitted by the karma-baiting author. And like the author of the recent article on why OS X sucks for
by edw 15y ago
This is a link-baiting article from a link-baiting site, submitted by the karma-baiting author. And like the author of the recent article on why OS X sucks for development, he fails to appreciate that users of Apple's products may have different priorities and a different worldview than he does.
He's leaving on the table what seems like an obvious explanation for a lot of Apple users' relative apathy about this: They don't see it as a big deal and just don't care. It doesn't mean they're "toads," willing stooges of Steve Jobs, taking cues from him with respect to whether we've been forever at war with Eurasia or East Asia today.
Some people are probably still upset that Google "reads your mail" when it picks ads to show in Gmail. I can see the theoretical danger, but I Just. Don't. Care. And I think that apathy is not unreasonable.
There's a big difference between agreeing with a policy and believing that the policy isn't worth getting terribly upset over. (Please refrain of trying to push me down the slippery slope. Quoting Pastor Martin Niemöller's "First They Came" is not a substitute for argument.)
Sites like The Orange View are parasitic: they create nothing of value but instead lob rotting fruit at the obviously-imperfect people who get their hands dirty actually doing things. Every person or company that manages to actually accomplish something (Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Gwyneth Paltrow, who/what-ever) attracts people trying trying to profit from the resentment that that success breeds.
Does Apple have dirty hands? Yes. So does everyone that does more than sit around and nitpick.
- sorbus 15y ago> This is a link-baiting article from a link-baiting site, submitted by the karma-baiting author. Check the guidelines again: "When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. E.g. "That is an idiotic thing to say; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3.""
- edw 15y agoYou're falling prey to the Ad Hominem Fallacy Fallacy: http://plover.net/~bonds/adhominem.html http://plover.net/~bonds/adhominem.html That this is a link-baiting article is not part of my argument. It's a simple observation. The very title of his article is an insult to Apple users. Did you read past the first sentence of my comment, to—oh, let me see—the second sentence of my comment, where I explain what my problem with his "argument"—i.e. series of insults—is?
- sorbus 15y agoYes, I did read your entire comment. I'm not disagreeing with your points, or trying to dismiss them, I'm saying that the way you lead into them detracts from them, and is uncivil.
- edw 15y agoSo why didn't you take issue with the submitter of this story, who is its author, for submitting content that is itself uncivil? Have you read this guy's piece on the "iPad 2 Dumb Cover"? He is a one-man troll army.
- sorbus 15y agoBecause there's nothing in the guidelines about the civility of submissions, and I'm more concerned with improving the quality of comments than in reducing the number of articles which sink without a trace. (This is, incidentally, my last response in this thread. I'm not interested in being dragged into a long argument that is increasingly tangential from the original issue.)
- edw 15y agoWorrying about the letter of the guidelines misses a more important issue: if a user submits something, they're vouching for its quality. Submitting dreck represents a disservice to the community.