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How is it disrespectful?
by matz1 6y ago
How is it disrespectful?
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- johnkpaul 6y agoImagine the time before the formalization of dyslexia within medicine. It would have been very disrespectful and cruel to tell people who found learning very challenging something like “just try harder! It’s basic physics, the more you study, the more you learn!”
- matz1 6y agoCalorie in calorie out principle doesn't imply that its not challenging
- johnkpaul 6y agoWhy not? It just means you eat a specific amount of calories and you’ll lose weight no?
- matz1 6y agoThat its true but that statement doesn't say anything about the difficulty of it.
- johnkpaul 6y agoI agree. Neither you nor I made a specific comment in difficulty. Your parent comment stated it was disrespectful. I agreed and tried to use an analogy that would be considered both disrespectful and cruel by most people. In addition, I have successfully eaten the “correct” amount of calories for years and years and still gained weight. I admit, andcdata, but I am not the only person with this story nor am I the only one with this odd medical outcome.
- matz1 6y agoAnd i pointed out the issue with saying it disrespectful. >In addition, I have successfully eaten the “correct” amount of calories for years and years and still gained weight So that means you are not eating the correct amount of calorie. But i guess you knew that since you use the word correct in quote.
- johnkpaul 6y agoSorry, I don’t understand. What is the issue? I put correct in quotes because it was ineffective. I did not lose weight eating the amount of calories that the doctors calculated. Is that surprising?
- magicalhippo 6y agoIf you eat exactly 100g of refined sugar then your body can extract at most 400 calories. If you then burn 500, that 100 calorie difference must come from your body. That's all it means. Finding how many calories your body needs right now to maintain weight is another issue entirely, and one which involves estimation and uncertainties. If you find you're not losing weight while hitting your target value, well then it's simple[1]: your target value is wrong and needs to be lowered. [1]: Assuming your doc verified you're not gaining weight due to water retention or similar.
- fredophile 6y agoNo. The food you eat affects both sides of the equation. Different people will also have different responses to the same food due to factors like genetics, gut microbiome, etc. Calories in calories out works for everyone. Saying eat X calories per day to lose weight does not.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y agoIndeed. I know first hand how much more difficult it is than everyone who hasn't had to do it thinks it is.
- curiousllama 6y agoIt’s the phrasing, not the idea per se. Like, yes, weight loss is energy consumed - energy burned, but it’s rather obvious, rather unhelpful, and simplifies things in a way that triggers shame, not determination for people who have to overcome more barriers. It’s like you’re in the middle of a marathon and someone running a 5k goes “have you considered running faster?”
- matz1 6y agoSure it can be interpreted multiple ways and like with any idea, there will always be some people that offended. Some people may find it obvious but some other people can find it helpful.
- johnkpaul 6y agoHahaha yes this is great. Similar with “Oh, you’re poor? Have you tried making more money?”
- vsareto 6y agoYep, fat shaming doesn't work because the rich bully the poor all the time and that definitely hasn't changed anything
- andrei_says_ 6y agoI love Rutger Bregman’s Ted talk on how being poor impacts decision making. https://www.ted.com/talks/rutger_bregman_poverty_isn_t_a_lack_of_character_it_s_a_lack_of_cash?language=en https://www.ted.com/talks/rutger_bregman_poverty_isn_t_a_lac...
- Viliam1234 6y ago"Money in, money out."
- matz1 6y agoYou would think it obvious but suprisingly a lot of people didn't know that.