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Why is there not an ergonomic keyboard with trackball or some other cursor device built in, so I can use the cursor and mouse buttons without moving my hands ou

Why is there not an ergonomic keyboard with trackball or some other cursor device built in, so I can use the cursor and mouse buttons without moving my hands out of place? I currently use (and love) am Advantage 2, but I would happily drop another $400 on an ergonomic keyboard with mouse.

HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
Check the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. It has a trackball module.
- kzemek 6y ago
  It will have a trackball module (if everything goes to plan). The modules are still undergoing the manufacture process, the last newsletter said they are delayed and expected "closer to end of November".
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questionfor 6y ago
I am seriously considering putting together a tiny trackpad to have it located someplace between the two halves of my Sinc. It does seem there are some tiny trackpads for sale, but in the end they all seem a bit too big. I really just want to be able to scroll up / down left right and drag things. Maybe trackpoint could help idk
nine_k 6y ago
I had the same thought. I also love the trackpoint on Lenovo (previously IBM) laptops. But once I tries a split keyboard with a layout that really allows you to keep your hands in one position, I realized that moving my hand to a trackpoint or a trackball, and moving it to a mouse is an equal amount of disruption. At that, a mouse is a much more precise device. You can also check the "J joystick" idea implemented on some really old laptops, where a regular key is turned into a joystick.
- jodrellblank 6y ago
  Instead of the J key as a joystick, I want to see touch sensitive keycaps turned into a trackpad. On iOS software keyboard, holding spacebar then swiping around moves the cursor. I’ve read that a blackberry android phone (Key One?) has similar on its hardware keyboard, but I’ve not seen one in real life or seen a video of that feature specifically (anyone know of one?). I don’t see much about eyeball tracking these days; if I can look where I want the cursor to be, can’t I push a key to put it there? Surely with the rise of camera tech, computing power, and image analysis tooling that’s easier than it used to be?
unsui 6y ago
On my Kinesis Advantage2, I have added the following mini touchpad (attached via velcro and 3M double-sided tape for the cable): https://www.ergonomictouchpad.com/mini_touchpad.php https://www.ergonomictouchpad.com/mini_touchpad.php The touchpad is in the middle area right above the right-thumb keys, within easy reach of my index finger without having to lift from the home row. Works great.

HeadsUpHigh 6y ago

Check the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. It has a trackball module.

kzemek 6y ago
It will have a trackball module (if everything goes to plan). The modules are still undergoing the manufacture process, the last newsletter said they are delayed and expected "closer to end of November".

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questionfor 6y ago

I am seriously considering putting together a tiny trackpad to have it located someplace between the two halves of my Sinc. It does seem there are some tiny trackpads for sale, but in the end they all seem a bit too big. I really just want to be able to scroll up / down left right and drag things. Maybe trackpoint could help idk

nine_k 6y ago

I had the same thought. I also love the trackpoint on Lenovo (previously IBM) laptops. But once I tries a split keyboard with a layout that really allows you to keep your hands in one position, I realized that moving my hand to a trackpoint or a trackball, and moving it to a mouse is an equal amount of disruption. At that, a mouse is a much more precise device. You can also check the "J joystick" idea implemented on some really old laptops, where a regular key is turned into a joystick.

jodrellblank 6y ago
Instead of the J key as a joystick, I want to see touch sensitive keycaps turned into a trackpad. On iOS software keyboard, holding spacebar then swiping around moves the cursor. I’ve read that a blackberry android phone (Key One?) has similar on its hardware keyboard, but I’ve not seen one in real life or seen a video of that feature specifically (anyone know of one?). I don’t see much about eyeball tracking these days; if I can look where I want the cursor to be, can’t I push a key to put it there? Surely with the rise of camera tech, computing power, and image analysis tooling that’s easier than it used to be?

unsui 6y ago

On my Kinesis Advantage2, I have added the following mini touchpad (attached via velcro and 3M double-sided tape for the cable): https://www.ergonomictouchpad.com/mini_touchpad.php https://www.ergonomictouchpad.com/mini_touchpad.php The touchpad is in the middle area right above the right-thumb keys, within easy reach of my index finger without having to lift from the home row. Works great.