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F-Secure's article on this, http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002145.html http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002145.html, shows that the location

by ttol 15y ago

F-Secure's article on this, http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002145.html http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002145.html, shows that the location database is uploaded to Apple twice a day

tvon 15y ago
They make all sorts of claims in that article but never do they show the data is sent to Apple. Alex Levinson (cited in the above link) actually states that it has not been shown that Apple is collecting this data: https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/3-major-issues-with-the-latest-iphone-tracking-discovery/ https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/3-major-issues...
- ttol 15y ago
  Alex Levinson says that it's illegal to determine the location or movement of a person. Apple's lead counsel Bruce Sewell says this is not the case as the identifier is randomized, and that Apple does collect anonymous location data from iPhones in an effort to improve its own database of cell tower and WiFi hotspot locations. See: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/07/apple-responds-to-congress-swears-location-data-is-private.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/07/apple-responds-to-...
  - tvon 15y ago
    That's a far cry from "the [iPhone] location database is uploaded to Apple twice a day".
    - ttol 15y ago
      Not really. Many articles discuss that they send the data every 12 hours. For example, here's one: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Web-Services-Web-20-and-SOA/Apple-Tells-Congressmen-it-Batches-Encrypts-Location-Data-411968/ http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Web-Services-Web-20-and-SOA/Apple-T...
      - tvon 15y ago
        They send data every 12 hours, not "the iphone location database", there is a difference.
mrspeaker 15y ago
That explains why Lil Snitch pops up twice a day asking to OK Apple's "locationd" process on my MacBook (I'd say "deny forever" but I like to be reminded that my location is a valuable commodity ;) https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2141988?threadID=2141988 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2141988?threadID=214198...
haentz 15y ago
This article doesn't show anything… It just makes claims.

by ttol 15y ago

tvon 15y ago

They make all sorts of claims in that article but never do they show the data is sent to Apple. Alex Levinson (cited in the above link) actually states that it has not been shown that Apple is collecting this data: https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/3-major-issues-with-the-latest-iphone-tracking-discovery/ https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/3-major-issues...

ttol 15y ago
Alex Levinson says that it's illegal to determine the location or movement of a person. Apple's lead counsel Bruce Sewell says this is not the case as the identifier is randomized, and that Apple does collect anonymous location data from iPhones in an effort to improve its own database of cell tower and WiFi hotspot locations. See: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/07/apple-responds-to-congress-swears-location-data-is-private.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/07/apple-responds-to-...
- tvon 15y ago
  That's a far cry from "the [iPhone] location database is uploaded to Apple twice a day".
  - ttol 15y ago
    Not really. Many articles discuss that they send the data every 12 hours. For example, here's one: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Web-Services-Web-20-and-SOA/Apple-Tells-Congressmen-it-Batches-Encrypts-Location-Data-411968/ http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Web-Services-Web-20-and-SOA/Apple-T...
    - tvon 15y ago
      They send data every 12 hours, not "the iphone location database", there is a difference.

mrspeaker 15y ago

That explains why Lil Snitch pops up twice a day asking to OK Apple's "locationd" process on my MacBook (I'd say "deny forever" but I like to be reminded that my location is a valuable commodity ;) https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2141988?threadID=2141988 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2141988?threadID=214198...

haentz 15y ago

This article doesn't show anything… It just makes claims.