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The irony of the whole situation is that in trying to prosecute Assange, the US government has lost more public trust from its own actions than it did because o

The irony of the whole situation is that in trying to prosecute Assange, the US government has lost more public trust from its own actions than it did because of Wikileaks. Nobody trusts the government today. The whole thing is absolutely Kafkaesque and ridiculous.

austincheney 6y ago
This might be true is some echo chamber, but it doesn't seem like almost anybody cares. Is there some kind of survey that says otherwise? Unless you are a huge fan of Assange prior to all this I cannot think of anybody (person, media, or otherwise) that is even following this.
- cryptica 6y ago
  They do care but for now they pretend not to care because they don't think that they can do anything about it. But the pressure is building up. It's going to be released eventually. All at once, violently and in the most unexpected way as history has shown time and time again.
  - evgen 6y ago
    No pressure is buildilng because no one cares. Other than an extreme fringe of the chattering class subset of the digerati, nobody cares about the fate of Julian Assange. As soon as he ran to the embassy he was guilty in the eyes of the mass public and became nothing more than a sideshow for two column inches on page 6 of the Sunday paper. Your vague references to some coming revolution are probably the most laughable part of all of this.
    - cryptica 6y ago
      >> Your vague references to some coming revolution are probably the most laughable part of all of this. There is so much cognitive dissonance in our society that the levels of mental illness are going through the roof. It's 100% certain that there will be a revolution in the next decade.
- dpwm 6y ago
  There may be other reasons why people are not following this: > Due to Covid distancing measures, the court made five spaces available to members of the public, in a gallery with a total of 36 seats. Communications from the court repeatedly stated that these would be allocated on a first come, first serve basis - however this was not respected in practice. For nearly three weeks of proceedings, three seats were held back for unspecified “VIPs” for the first hour and a half each morning, and the first half an hour each afternoon, meaning that often only two members of the public (including NGO observers) were present in the courtroom. After RSF learned that the VIPs were in fact diplomats who were unaware these seats were being held for them, diplomatic intervention with the court finally resulted in all five seats being made fully available to the public from 24 September. One of the few organisations that might have sought to report on this – the Guardian – published the book which allegedly first released the encryption key to the underacted diplomatic cables. [0] https://rsf.org/en/news/usuk-julian-assanges-extradition-hearing-marred-barriers-open-justice https://rsf.org/en/news/usuk-julian-assanges-extradition-hea...
kstenerud 6y ago
American culture is very strong in its distrust of governments and authorities of any kind, and always has been. That was one of the first things I noticed while living there. But the Assange case won't move the needle at all. Of the few people who actually know of the case, almost none will learn what actually happened because they won't look deep enough to see past the many, many red herrings. To the vast majority, he'll just be an egotistical journalist-wannabe rapist with no regard for the safety of others, and not someone to be missed or cared about. Truth doesn't matter when it comes to writing history, or protecting the powerful.

austincheney 6y ago

This might be true is some echo chamber, but it doesn't seem like almost anybody cares. Is there some kind of survey that says otherwise? Unless you are a huge fan of Assange prior to all this I cannot think of anybody (person, media, or otherwise) that is even following this.

cryptica 6y ago
They do care but for now they pretend not to care because they don't think that they can do anything about it. But the pressure is building up. It's going to be released eventually. All at once, violently and in the most unexpected way as history has shown time and time again.
- evgen 6y ago
  No pressure is buildilng because no one cares. Other than an extreme fringe of the chattering class subset of the digerati, nobody cares about the fate of Julian Assange. As soon as he ran to the embassy he was guilty in the eyes of the mass public and became nothing more than a sideshow for two column inches on page 6 of the Sunday paper. Your vague references to some coming revolution are probably the most laughable part of all of this.
  - cryptica 6y ago
    >> Your vague references to some coming revolution are probably the most laughable part of all of this. There is so much cognitive dissonance in our society that the levels of mental illness are going through the roof. It's 100% certain that there will be a revolution in the next decade.
dpwm 6y ago
There may be other reasons why people are not following this: > Due to Covid distancing measures, the court made five spaces available to members of the public, in a gallery with a total of 36 seats. Communications from the court repeatedly stated that these would be allocated on a first come, first serve basis - however this was not respected in practice. For nearly three weeks of proceedings, three seats were held back for unspecified “VIPs” for the first hour and a half each morning, and the first half an hour each afternoon, meaning that often only two members of the public (including NGO observers) were present in the courtroom. After RSF learned that the VIPs were in fact diplomats who were unaware these seats were being held for them, diplomatic intervention with the court finally resulted in all five seats being made fully available to the public from 24 September. One of the few organisations that might have sought to report on this – the Guardian – published the book which allegedly first released the encryption key to the underacted diplomatic cables. [0] https://rsf.org/en/news/usuk-julian-assanges-extradition-hearing-marred-barriers-open-justice https://rsf.org/en/news/usuk-julian-assanges-extradition-hea...

kstenerud 6y ago

American culture is very strong in its distrust of governments and authorities of any kind, and always has been. That was one of the first things I noticed while living there. But the Assange case won't move the needle at all. Of the few people who actually know of the case, almost none will learn what actually happened because they won't look deep enough to see past the many, many red herrings. To the vast majority, he'll just be an egotistical journalist-wannabe rapist with no regard for the safety of others, and not someone to be missed or cared about. Truth doesn't matter when it comes to writing history, or protecting the powerful.