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Did you read anything in my post? What about the widely held belief that Trump colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 Presidential election? The Meueller re

by ajxs 6y ago

Did you read anything in my post? What about the widely held belief that Trump colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 Presidential election? The Meueller report was unable to prove collusion. What if big-tech suddenly banned any claims to the contrary on the grounds that it constituted 'misinformation'? Would you call that censorship then?

dragontamer 6y ago
> What about the widely held belief that Trump colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 Presidential election? And no one in my family believes that. Myself included (though I wish the Muller report were written with stronger language to clarify itself: its conclusion had extremely weak wording). I talk about the misinformation that I can see personally and in my social circle. Fortunately, none of my family members are getting sucked into Q or some of the more dangerous stuff... but the misinformation across the spectrum online destroys discussion as a whole. Far more than "censorship" of posts by Twitter or whoever. After all, I don't do Facebook. I honestly don't care about it: I'm practically "self-censored" from Facebook because I don't use it at all. What I do care about is the misinformation my family is getting from it. --------- I mean, it seems clear to me that you are a user of Facebook, and you seem to agree with me that misinformation is running rampant? I'm blind to it, since I don't read Facebook at all. I can only tell you what has come through my Mother and Sister's mouths in my discussions with them. But as far as I can tell, you're just confirming my point: that there's a huge amount of misinformation here. And I applaud Facebook's announcement that they're fighting against it.
- ajxs 6y ago
  > I mean, it seems clear to me that you are a user of Facebook, and you seem to agree with me that misinformation is running rampant? No, I don't use Facebook. I haven't for a long time. While I agree that there is propagation of misinformation happening on the platform, that's not my main concern. My main concern is that Facebook, and other platforms, will use their framework for 'removing misinformation' as a tool for censorship in the pursuit of their political agendas. My chief contention is that this poses a larger risk to society than the propagation of misinformation in the first place.
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sthnblllII 6y ago
"Anything I disagree with is an Orwellian lie and must be censored." Orwellian lies are the ones told by the people with power. If you are deciding weather or not to censor it, its not Orwellian. Calling the truth Orwellian is what The Party would have done if 1984 existed in 1984.

by ajxs 6y ago

dragontamer 6y ago

> What about the widely held belief that Trump colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 Presidential election? And no one in my family believes that. Myself included (though I wish the Muller report were written with stronger language to clarify itself: its conclusion had extremely weak wording). I talk about the misinformation that I can see personally and in my social circle. Fortunately, none of my family members are getting sucked into Q or some of the more dangerous stuff... but the misinformation across the spectrum online destroys discussion as a whole. Far more than "censorship" of posts by Twitter or whoever. After all, I don't do Facebook. I honestly don't care about it: I'm practically "self-censored" from Facebook because I don't use it at all. What I do care about is the misinformation my family is getting from it. --------- I mean, it seems clear to me that you are a user of Facebook, and you seem to agree with me that misinformation is running rampant? I'm blind to it, since I don't read Facebook at all. I can only tell you what has come through my Mother and Sister's mouths in my discussions with them. But as far as I can tell, you're just confirming my point: that there's a huge amount of misinformation here. And I applaud Facebook's announcement that they're fighting against it.

ajxs 6y ago
> I mean, it seems clear to me that you are a user of Facebook, and you seem to agree with me that misinformation is running rampant? No, I don't use Facebook. I haven't for a long time. While I agree that there is propagation of misinformation happening on the platform, that's not my main concern. My main concern is that Facebook, and other platforms, will use their framework for 'removing misinformation' as a tool for censorship in the pursuit of their political agendas. My chief contention is that this poses a larger risk to society than the propagation of misinformation in the first place.

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sthnblllII 6y ago

"Anything I disagree with is an Orwellian lie and must be censored." Orwellian lies are the ones told by the people with power. If you are deciding weather or not to censor it, its not Orwellian. Calling the truth Orwellian is what The Party would have done if 1984 existed in 1984.