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Sounding more and more like a moral panic. Can people in the big cities not accept people in rural areas reject everything they think is good? It's not a forei

by konjin 6y ago

Sounding more and more like a moral panic. Can people in the big cities not accept people in rural areas reject everything they think is good? It's not a foreign plot, it's a fundamental disagreement about values.

nemothekid 6y ago
I don't see it that way at all, I think it's becoming more and more clear that there are actually conservative voices in these organizations (if not fully conservative, but at least economically conservative). As social media gets larger and larger, these companies need to (1) at least pretend to be impartial and (2) show they are doing something about the "problem", or else the loser will blame big tech and slap them with regulation. Trump hasn't even lost and he's already talking about repealing Section 230, and Facebook (I think rightfully) is getting a lot of attention that could lead them to get broken up. No one wants a target on their back when some research firm uncovers that "bad guy X" spent a couple million dollars astroturfing and/or abusing the platform or skirting election advertising regulation. It doesn't matter if that bad guy is Russia or some American Super PAC
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shadowgovt 6y ago
A bit of both. Basic propaganda tactic is to emphasize differences and make them appear unbridgeable.
russellbeattie 6y ago
Stop that apologist crap. I grew up in a rural area and I know these people quite well. People in rural areas reject science, general knowledge and social norms of the "big cities" because they are frightened and ignorant, not because of some equally valid world view. Their response to climate science is stubborn ignorance. Their response to different cultures, races and religion is bigotry. Their response to democracy (when it doesn't suit them) is reactionary. Their response to education is closed mindedness. There's nothing to respect here. Rural people are happy to have iPhones, as long as they don't need to understand the science behind the technology, understand the multicultural aspects of it's existence or respect the people who created it. As Asimov said 40 years ago: "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
- konjin 6y ago
  Sounds good. So tell me, factually, are blacks responsible for 52% of all violent crimes yet constitute 12% of the population? Gee wiz turns out science and facts get swept under the rug by liberals as well when they don't jive with their world view.
  - russellbeattie 6y ago
    Ahh! Conservative projection at its finest, combined with a little cherry picked racism as well. Great job! You represent your kind well. I'm not a Republican so I don't deny actual facts. Even if your numbers were up to date and accurate, which they aren't (get out of your bubble, Fox boy) the causes are tied to much more than race so it's a meaningless number designed only to incite racial hatred. Good job again! To repeat: Fear and ignorance. Which you just gave us a great example of. Also, to the other HNers. It's election season, so enjoy the "overly political" comments for a while.
    - konjin 6y ago
      I'm a socialist.
  - srtjstjsj 6y ago
    I'll spot you that it's a fact, ignoring the racism behind how "violent crime" is defined. Using that fact as an irrational basis for despicable racist behavior doesn't jive with my worldview.
    - konjin 6y ago
      The natural variability climate change defense playbook. Again going head to head with conservative reality denial there.
- mynameishere 6y ago
  Rural people are happy to have iPhones, as long as they don't need to understand the science behind the technology, Said the guy who probably doesn't even know how to thresh his own soybeans.

by konjin 6y ago

nemothekid 6y ago

I don't see it that way at all, I think it's becoming more and more clear that there are actually conservative voices in these organizations (if not fully conservative, but at least economically conservative). As social media gets larger and larger, these companies need to (1) at least pretend to be impartial and (2) show they are doing something about the "problem", or else the loser will blame big tech and slap them with regulation. Trump hasn't even lost and he's already talking about repealing Section 230, and Facebook (I think rightfully) is getting a lot of attention that could lead them to get broken up. No one wants a target on their back when some research firm uncovers that "bad guy X" spent a couple million dollars astroturfing and/or abusing the platform or skirting election advertising regulation. It doesn't matter if that bad guy is Russia or some American Super PAC

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shadowgovt 6y ago

A bit of both. Basic propaganda tactic is to emphasize differences and make them appear unbridgeable.

russellbeattie 6y ago

Stop that apologist crap. I grew up in a rural area and I know these people quite well. People in rural areas reject science, general knowledge and social norms of the "big cities" because they are frightened and ignorant, not because of some equally valid world view. Their response to climate science is stubborn ignorance. Their response to different cultures, races and religion is bigotry. Their response to democracy (when it doesn't suit them) is reactionary. Their response to education is closed mindedness. There's nothing to respect here. Rural people are happy to have iPhones, as long as they don't need to understand the science behind the technology, understand the multicultural aspects of it's existence or respect the people who created it. As Asimov said 40 years ago: "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

konjin 6y ago
Sounds good. So tell me, factually, are blacks responsible for 52% of all violent crimes yet constitute 12% of the population? Gee wiz turns out science and facts get swept under the rug by liberals as well when they don't jive with their world view.
- russellbeattie 6y ago
  Ahh! Conservative projection at its finest, combined with a little cherry picked racism as well. Great job! You represent your kind well. I'm not a Republican so I don't deny actual facts. Even if your numbers were up to date and accurate, which they aren't (get out of your bubble, Fox boy) the causes are tied to much more than race so it's a meaningless number designed only to incite racial hatred. Good job again! To repeat: Fear and ignorance. Which you just gave us a great example of. Also, to the other HNers. It's election season, so enjoy the "overly political" comments for a while.
  - konjin 6y ago
    I'm a socialist.
- srtjstjsj 6y ago
  I'll spot you that it's a fact, ignoring the racism behind how "violent crime" is defined. Using that fact as an irrational basis for despicable racist behavior doesn't jive with my worldview.
  - konjin 6y ago
    The natural variability climate change defense playbook. Again going head to head with conservative reality denial there.
mynameishere 6y ago
Rural people are happy to have iPhones, as long as they don't need to understand the science behind the technology, Said the guy who probably doesn't even know how to thresh his own soybeans.