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I was thinking more along the lines of old political leaders who willingly gave up power, like george Washington or Marcus Aurelius. Yeah, I agree. Maybe you co

I was thinking more along the lines of old political leaders who willingly gave up power, like george Washington or Marcus Aurelius. Yeah, I agree. Maybe you could find someone who cared about some companies, but most companies don't have a vision at all. Is there anyone who actually deeply cares about nestles higher vision? I think if you could find someone both willing and able to do will as ceo while being completely uninterested in being a ceo it would go well, but there can't be many of those people.

cutemonster 6y ago
George Washington seems like a good example to me -- then I understand what you mean. (I read on Wikipedia about Marcus Aurelius but didn't find anything except for that he was a stoic thinker? What that now means) And maybe it's possible to find such people, like GW, for non executive roles, too. What if maybe Nestle doesn't actually have a vision? If they just picked words that sound good, as a PR thing, to sell more?
- thatguy0900 6y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Quinctius_Cincinnatus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Quinctius_Cincinnatus probably because I was thinking of this guy, Marcus Aurelius just said he didn't want to be emporer but did it as a duty to the state, got them mixed up. I think nestle not having a vision is the reason it won't ever have a moral ceo, though, there's no reason for anyone to push a moral person to the top when morality will probably produce less results. Even if you find such people it's hard to promote them without a sense of ethics at the top I think.
  - cutemonster 6y ago
    Thanks for the link, interesting to read :-) Hmm yes maybe in a way, some organizations can be "immune" to becoming more ethical / less depraved Maybe the way to handle that, is to start another organization and try to out complete the wicked one

cutemonster 6y ago

George Washington seems like a good example to me -- then I understand what you mean. (I read on Wikipedia about Marcus Aurelius but didn't find anything except for that he was a stoic thinker? What that now means) And maybe it's possible to find such people, like GW, for non executive roles, too. What if maybe Nestle doesn't actually have a vision? If they just picked words that sound good, as a PR thing, to sell more?

thatguy0900 6y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Quinctius_Cincinnatus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Quinctius_Cincinnatus probably because I was thinking of this guy, Marcus Aurelius just said he didn't want to be emporer but did it as a duty to the state, got them mixed up. I think nestle not having a vision is the reason it won't ever have a moral ceo, though, there's no reason for anyone to push a moral person to the top when morality will probably produce less results. Even if you find such people it's hard to promote them without a sense of ethics at the top I think.
- cutemonster 6y ago
  Thanks for the link, interesting to read :-) Hmm yes maybe in a way, some organizations can be "immune" to becoming more ethical / less depraved Maybe the way to handle that, is to start another organization and try to out complete the wicked one