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I don’t believe Apple can dictate what ProtonMail is sending to its user via email. Requiring no app generated notification has a clear line. Requiring no ema

I don’t believe Apple can dictate what ProtonMail is sending to its user via email. Requiring no app generated notification has a clear line. Requiring no email, which is a general mean of communication, has too big an implication. What about sending a text? Or a mail? Or to a secondary email? I’m not a lawyer, but such a clause in contract would be deemed rather unjust, wouldn’t it? It feels like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

coder543 6y ago
> It feels like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Lawsuits against Apple's App Store policy enforcement are already in progress, but Apple has the best lawyers money can buy, and rulings are years away. If a substantial part of your business risked being terminated at the click of a button by some unelected person that you have never met, with no proper way to appeal such an unjust decision, you'd probably think twice about doing something that could be misconstrued as intentionally violating App Store Guidelines too. I blame Apple for the lack of clarity both in their rules and their enforcement. I don't blame ProtonMail for trying to adhere to Apple's arbitrary rules that often make little sense.
- powersnail 6y ago
  At least part of the job of those lawyers is to tell Apple to not fight unlikely battles; or at least I hope. Apple wasn't crazy enough to go after Amazon Kindle app for asking the user to buy ebooks on Amazon.com, which bypassed Apple's system. Probably---hopefully---they aren't crazy enough to fight a email client for sending emails regarding upgrade plans.
  - deleuze 6y ago
    Absolute 0% of those lawyers jobs is to tell Apple to not pursue litigation. Do you understand what the point of litigation is for a company this size? They have over $100 billion in cash, even the most expensive lawyers salaries is a drop in the bucket. They can afford to drag a company like Protonmail through the mud for decades if they want to.
cma 6y ago
> I don’t believe Apple can dictate what ProtonMail is sending to its user via email. They already supposedly went after apps that linked to a privacy policy on their main website because the main website itself had premium options for sale. If you can't link to legal policy etc. because it might be a level or two of indirection from offering a premium service for sale through the site you have to do something like a special site just for Apple users. I can totally see them going after email and arguing Proton mail could hide those notification emails from iOS users if they contain links to premium.

coder543 6y ago

> It feels like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Lawsuits against Apple's App Store policy enforcement are already in progress, but Apple has the best lawyers money can buy, and rulings are years away. If a substantial part of your business risked being terminated at the click of a button by some unelected person that you have never met, with no proper way to appeal such an unjust decision, you'd probably think twice about doing something that could be misconstrued as intentionally violating App Store Guidelines too. I blame Apple for the lack of clarity both in their rules and their enforcement. I don't blame ProtonMail for trying to adhere to Apple's arbitrary rules that often make little sense.

powersnail 6y ago
At least part of the job of those lawyers is to tell Apple to not fight unlikely battles; or at least I hope. Apple wasn't crazy enough to go after Amazon Kindle app for asking the user to buy ebooks on Amazon.com, which bypassed Apple's system. Probably---hopefully---they aren't crazy enough to fight a email client for sending emails regarding upgrade plans.
- deleuze 6y ago
  Absolute 0% of those lawyers jobs is to tell Apple to not pursue litigation. Do you understand what the point of litigation is for a company this size? They have over $100 billion in cash, even the most expensive lawyers salaries is a drop in the bucket. They can afford to drag a company like Protonmail through the mud for decades if they want to.

cma 6y ago

> I don’t believe Apple can dictate what ProtonMail is sending to its user via email. They already supposedly went after apps that linked to a privacy policy on their main website because the main website itself had premium options for sale. If you can't link to legal policy etc. because it might be a level or two of indirection from offering a premium service for sale through the site you have to do something like a special site just for Apple users. I can totally see them going after email and arguing Proton mail could hide those notification emails from iOS users if they contain links to premium.