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>the colleagues who will be in the office will seem to get really lucky in regards to promotions and opportunities for some reason and you'll be left out becaus

>the colleagues who will be in the office will seem to get really lucky in regards to promotions and opportunities for some reason and you'll be left out because you'll miss the coffee/water cooler/cigarette chit-chat where future projects/directions are discussed casually and off the record without you The reality is that merit is only one of many reasons that promotions happen. And often not the primary reason.

calcifer 6y ago
> merit is only one of many reasons that promotions happen. And often not the primary reason. Related thread from 10 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24618707 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24618707
whywhywhywhy 6y ago
Not sure about other peoples experiences but all the best and smoothest projects of my career were done with groups who had good social cohesion, got on with each other, supported each other and most importantly socialized with each other. There is close to zero opportunity for free creative brainstorming in the workplace and all the true innovation we made came out of discussions outside of work at the pub. Definitely know there's benefits for working at home, especially for the first few years of your kids lives. But career wise if you reduce your presence to a name in a slack sidebar and an occasional face on a videocall, don't be shocked if you're treated like a name in a sidebar because just like any relationships in life presence makes a difference.
- jakupovic 6y ago
  The group ideas are only as good as the smartest member. All this chit chat talk is bullshit
  - filoleg 6y ago
    >The group ideas are only as good as the smartest member Even the smartest members tend often to not realize the brilliance of a random idea they have (out of their list of many). A cohesive group of people that you trust and can bounce ideas off of is valuable, both in case of bad and good ideas.
- jarjoura 6y ago
  This has been my experience as well. One thing I'm missing right now are the crazy random ideas that people say jokingly but then someone takes seriously and turns into a product feature.

calcifer 6y ago

> merit is only one of many reasons that promotions happen. And often not the primary reason. Related thread from 10 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24618707 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24618707

whywhywhywhy 6y ago

Not sure about other peoples experiences but all the best and smoothest projects of my career were done with groups who had good social cohesion, got on with each other, supported each other and most importantly socialized with each other. There is close to zero opportunity for free creative brainstorming in the workplace and all the true innovation we made came out of discussions outside of work at the pub. Definitely know there's benefits for working at home, especially for the first few years of your kids lives. But career wise if you reduce your presence to a name in a slack sidebar and an occasional face on a videocall, don't be shocked if you're treated like a name in a sidebar because just like any relationships in life presence makes a difference.

jakupovic 6y ago
The group ideas are only as good as the smartest member. All this chit chat talk is bullshit
- filoleg 6y ago
  >The group ideas are only as good as the smartest member Even the smartest members tend often to not realize the brilliance of a random idea they have (out of their list of many). A cohesive group of people that you trust and can bounce ideas off of is valuable, both in case of bad and good ideas.
jarjoura 6y ago
This has been my experience as well. One thing I'm missing right now are the crazy random ideas that people say jokingly but then someone takes seriously and turns into a product feature.