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Yes - for someone living in a big city half office, half WFH is the worst of everything. It means that I have to maintain an expensive home office, don't get al

by st1x7 6y ago

Yes - for someone living in a big city half office, half WFH is the worst of everything. It means that I have to maintain an expensive home office, don't get all the benefits of working in an office with other people (which I prefer) and I can't move out of the big city.

lnsru 6y ago
You’re describing my situation. I have no dedicated room for my home office, just table with my own decent monitor and company’s decent workstation plus some hardware from the office. My place looks ugly with all that equipment, but it’s still better than punching a card daily in the office. Moving to a cheaper area is too good to be true.
- ghaff 6y ago
  Or you get a coworking space (in normal circumstances) and it's just a cost like commuting is for a lot of people.
  - st1x7 6y ago
    That sounds like all the downsides of an office with none of the benefits. Plus additional expenses.
    - ghaff 6y ago
      But you can get a coworking space in a cheaper location if that's where you want to live. (Or get a bigger place with room for an office.) Some people prefer working in a different location than they're living.
      - st1x7 6y ago
        It won't be cheaper than my employer paying for an office. That's what I'm comparing to.
        jlokier 6y ago
        It will be cheaper if the local coworking space costs less than your commute to the employer's office. Both financially and in time spent.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
There are winners and losers every time there's large change. Those people slogging out 1.5hr commutes from the outer suburbs are the winners because remote work even with a "you must be in the office 1 day a week" policy makes their land more attractive. The people who mortgaged themselves up to their eyeballs to get in on those good inner suburb commutes and schools are the losers because suddenly outer suburb housing is a more viable alternative to what they own. The people living in illegal 300sf studio departments in people's basements are neither since they weren't all in on any particular side. They can rent somewhere further out and cheaper with space for an office without too much friction. Back in the early 90s a lot of cities were dumps compared to today. The people who bought there and held on for 20-30yr won because a lot of cities gentrified.
hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
I completely disagree, and I am in that situation. I feel like working from home 3-4 days a week, and then in the office 1-2 days a week is the best of everything: 1. I have much more freedom to choose where I live because my commute is much less of an issue if I'm only doing it once or twice a week. 2. I feel like I get the best of all worlds: I get great "focus time" when I'm working from home, but I am still able to have more personal relationships from meeting people in person at the office. 3. Our company I think has done a great job segregating heads-down work time from specific days where we have more meetings or more collaboration.

by st1x7 6y ago

lnsru 6y ago

You’re describing my situation. I have no dedicated room for my home office, just table with my own decent monitor and company’s decent workstation plus some hardware from the office. My place looks ugly with all that equipment, but it’s still better than punching a card daily in the office. Moving to a cheaper area is too good to be true.

ghaff 6y ago
Or you get a coworking space (in normal circumstances) and it's just a cost like commuting is for a lot of people.
- st1x7 6y ago
  That sounds like all the downsides of an office with none of the benefits. Plus additional expenses.
  - ghaff 6y ago
    But you can get a coworking space in a cheaper location if that's where you want to live. (Or get a bigger place with room for an office.) Some people prefer working in a different location than they're living.
    - st1x7 6y ago
      It won't be cheaper than my employer paying for an office. That's what I'm comparing to.
      - jlokier 6y ago
        It will be cheaper if the local coworking space costs less than your commute to the employer's office. Both financially and in time spent.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

There are winners and losers every time there's large change. Those people slogging out 1.5hr commutes from the outer suburbs are the winners because remote work even with a "you must be in the office 1 day a week" policy makes their land more attractive. The people who mortgaged themselves up to their eyeballs to get in on those good inner suburb commutes and schools are the losers because suddenly outer suburb housing is a more viable alternative to what they own. The people living in illegal 300sf studio departments in people's basements are neither since they weren't all in on any particular side. They can rent somewhere further out and cheaper with space for an office without too much friction. Back in the early 90s a lot of cities were dumps compared to today. The people who bought there and held on for 20-30yr won because a lot of cities gentrified.

hn_throwaway_99 6y ago

I completely disagree, and I am in that situation. I feel like working from home 3-4 days a week, and then in the office 1-2 days a week is the best of everything: 1. I have much more freedom to choose where I live because my commute is much less of an issue if I'm only doing it once or twice a week. 2. I feel like I get the best of all worlds: I get great "focus time" when I'm working from home, but I am still able to have more personal relationships from meeting people in person at the office. 3. Our company I think has done a great job segregating heads-down work time from specific days where we have more meetings or more collaboration.