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That should be a decision made by Telegram not Apple.

zepto 6y ago
Should has nothing to do with it. It’s a legal issue. Telegram doesn’t have to follow the laws of Belarus, whereas Apple who has a presence there, does.
- baybal2 6y ago
  It's not a legal issue, that's a moral issue.
  - zepto 6y ago
    Choosing whether to follow the law or not is a legal issue.
    - baybal2 6y ago
      It's not a legal issue, it is a moral issue. An amoral law is not to be followed even if it is your life is on stake, otherwise you will turn into an unvirtuous man. In this situation, Mr Cook, a man running world's most valuable company, decided to part with virtue, and become a man without honour.
maxgashkov 6y ago
Why not? Lawful aspect aside, Apple states the conditions in their ToS upon which the app will be accepted and will stay available in their ecosystem. It may seem unfair and counterintuitive, but I suspect that there is non-zero portion of Apple users that happily subscribe to this model. What we're discussing here has strong political flavor, but this isn't the only case of Apple censoring Telegram's content. For example, all even remotely pornographic channels have been banned in native Telegram apps on iOS for years. Somehow Durov is silent about this (probably because you can't score some cheap publicity over defense of pornography). His double standards aside: parent buying his child an iPhone is probably much happier due to this policy than not.
- reader_mode 6y ago
  Meh I'm just saying my opinion on how a store should behave - if this is illegal let the request come from proper government channels, as for ToS and anti porn protecting children - I don't really care - I know what my child does in his internet activity, there are parental control tools and their internet activity should be whitelist based not blacklisting stuff. But I don't use Apple iOS precisely because of their ridiculous grip on the ecosystem - even though from a technical perspective Android is pure garbage.

Should has nothing to do with it. It’s a legal issue. Telegram doesn’t have to follow the laws of Belarus, whereas Apple who has a presence there, does.

baybal2 6y ago
It's not a legal issue, that's a moral issue.
- zepto 6y ago
  Choosing whether to follow the law or not is a legal issue.
  - baybal2 6y ago
    It's not a legal issue, it is a moral issue. An amoral law is not to be followed even if it is your life is on stake, otherwise you will turn into an unvirtuous man. In this situation, Mr Cook, a man running world's most valuable company, decided to part with virtue, and become a man without honour.

maxgashkov 6y ago

Why not? Lawful aspect aside, Apple states the conditions in their ToS upon which the app will be accepted and will stay available in their ecosystem. It may seem unfair and counterintuitive, but I suspect that there is non-zero portion of Apple users that happily subscribe to this model. What we're discussing here has strong political flavor, but this isn't the only case of Apple censoring Telegram's content. For example, all even remotely pornographic channels have been banned in native Telegram apps on iOS for years. Somehow Durov is silent about this (probably because you can't score some cheap publicity over defense of pornography). His double standards aside: parent buying his child an iPhone is probably much happier due to this policy than not.

reader_mode 6y ago
Meh I'm just saying my opinion on how a store should behave - if this is illegal let the request come from proper government channels, as for ToS and anti porn protecting children - I don't really care - I know what my child does in his internet activity, there are parental control tools and their internet activity should be whitelist based not blacklisting stuff. But I don't use Apple iOS precisely because of their ridiculous grip on the ecosystem - even though from a technical perspective Android is pure garbage.