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Totally agree. The European Union got the peace prize in 2012. Europa used to be most warn torn part of the world, and the origin of two world wars. Members sta

Totally agree. The European Union got the peace prize in 2012. Europa used to be most warn torn part of the world, and the origin of two world wars. Members states of the EU are expelled if they have armed conflicts with their neighbouring countries.

M2Ys4U 6y ago
Not exactly - there's no mechanism to expel a member state from the EU. Member states may have "certain [...] rights deriving from the application of the Treaties to the Member State in question, including the voting rights of the representative of the government of that Member State in the Council" suspended, but "The obligations of the Member State in question under the Treaties shall in any case continue to be binding on that State." (Article 7 TEU) The only way for a member state to cease being a member state is through the withdrawal process in Article 50 TEU (i.e. like Brexit).
yostrovs 6y ago
The United States are still waiting for their peace prize on the same grounds. And the peace has lasted longer.
- tsimionescu 6y ago
  Was America a war torn region before the states united? As far as I know, not by a long shot.
  - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
    Quite a bit of genocide occurred in the territories, but most of that calmed down before they reached statehood.
    - tsimionescu 6y ago
      The genocide and marginalization against the native population continued well after the union, as far as I know.
  - yostrovs 6y ago
    Did the creation of the EU stop some war in Western Europe?
    - tsimionescu 6y ago
      That is commonly believed, yes - it has brought together countries that had been in a bitter war less than 50 years earlier, and may well have preserved the peace.
      - yostrovs 6y ago
        Pure speculation. Just like the states haven't had a war because they're the United States. Imagine if the states would have become independent countries. I can imagine the endless warfare. Nobel in Peace as clearly deserved as the European States.
        tsimionescu 6y ago
        Sure, it's all speculation, not claiming otherwise. But this can be said about any historical event that was "prevented" - by definition, it didn't happen, so we can only assume that it could have happened if something didn't stop it.
      - aries1980 6y ago
        Wasn't that the NATO instead?

M2Ys4U 6y ago

Not exactly - there's no mechanism to expel a member state from the EU. Member states may have "certain [...] rights deriving from the application of the Treaties to the Member State in question, including the voting rights of the representative of the government of that Member State in the Council" suspended, but "The obligations of the Member State in question under the Treaties shall in any case continue to be binding on that State." (Article 7 TEU) The only way for a member state to cease being a member state is through the withdrawal process in Article 50 TEU (i.e. like Brexit).

yostrovs 6y ago

The United States are still waiting for their peace prize on the same grounds. And the peace has lasted longer.

tsimionescu 6y ago
Was America a war torn region before the states united? As far as I know, not by a long shot.
- amanaplanacanal 6y ago
  Quite a bit of genocide occurred in the territories, but most of that calmed down before they reached statehood.
  - tsimionescu 6y ago
    The genocide and marginalization against the native population continued well after the union, as far as I know.
- yostrovs 6y ago
  Did the creation of the EU stop some war in Western Europe?
  - tsimionescu 6y ago
    That is commonly believed, yes - it has brought together countries that had been in a bitter war less than 50 years earlier, and may well have preserved the peace.
    - yostrovs 6y ago
      Pure speculation. Just like the states haven't had a war because they're the United States. Imagine if the states would have become independent countries. I can imagine the endless warfare. Nobel in Peace as clearly deserved as the European States.
      - tsimionescu 6y ago
        Sure, it's all speculation, not claiming otherwise. But this can be said about any historical event that was "prevented" - by definition, it didn't happen, so we can only assume that it could have happened if something didn't stop it.
    - aries1980 6y ago
      Wasn't that the NATO instead?