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But isn't that why most developers buy Macbooks? Because it is Unix underneath? In a related note, I see Windows being adopted more as they keep improving WSL2

But isn't that why most developers buy Macbooks? Because it is Unix underneath? In a related note, I see Windows being adopted more as they keep improving WSL2.

bzzzt 6y ago
Having some useful console tools certainly pulled a lot of people from Linux to macOS. The macOS GUI at least delivers a working desktop where "Linux on the desktop" seems to be eternally 'around the corner' for the last decade or something like that.
- arvinsim 6y ago
  Yes, that's what I mean. Unix underneath + a better UI interface is essentially what MacOS offers.
Toutouxc 6y ago
Absolutely, but this guy didn't need Unix "underneath", he just needed Unix without the pretty and expensive UI on top of it.
0x008 6y ago
I guess most will start with MacOs because they do frontend work and for anyone who does design work macs just provide the best out of the box experience. Then later you evolve to full stack dev and find out that because OS X is based on unix, you can do it all on the same machine.
wayneftw 6y ago
There has never, ever, ever been a time where most developers bought Macs. Ever. The vast majority of software developers have always been on Windows. This is true worldwide and in the US. Only in certain fields and places like Silicon Valley do developers on Macs outnumber those on Windows. I can link some numbers for you but they are findable. The stackoverflow developer survey shows it year after year.
- wayneftw 6y ago
  As a matter of fact, you can see here [0] that 72.4% of the 57k developers who took the survey primarily use Windows or Linux over a Mac. This is certainly in line with general desktop OS market share statistics [1] showing that Macs are only used by about 17% of the general population world wide with Windows taking the lion's share. Perhaps I've offended someones feelings with these statistics. Sorry, I can't apologize for facts though. [0] https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2020#technology-developers-primary-operating-systems https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2020#technology-de... [1] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide

But isn't that why most developers buy Macbooks? Because it is Unix underneath? In a related note, I see Windows being adopted more as they keep improving WSL2.

bzzzt 6y ago

Having some useful console tools certainly pulled a lot of people from Linux to macOS. The macOS GUI at least delivers a working desktop where "Linux on the desktop" seems to be eternally 'around the corner' for the last decade or something like that.

arvinsim 6y ago
Yes, that's what I mean. Unix underneath + a better UI interface is essentially what MacOS offers.

Toutouxc 6y ago

Absolutely, but this guy didn't need Unix "underneath", he just needed Unix without the pretty and expensive UI on top of it.

0x008 6y ago

I guess most will start with MacOs because they do frontend work and for anyone who does design work macs just provide the best out of the box experience. Then later you evolve to full stack dev and find out that because OS X is based on unix, you can do it all on the same machine.

wayneftw 6y ago

There has never, ever, ever been a time where most developers bought Macs. Ever. The vast majority of software developers have always been on Windows. This is true worldwide and in the US. Only in certain fields and places like Silicon Valley do developers on Macs outnumber those on Windows. I can link some numbers for you but they are findable. The stackoverflow developer survey shows it year after year.

wayneftw 6y ago
As a matter of fact, you can see here [0] that 72.4% of the 57k developers who took the survey primarily use Windows or Linux over a Mac. This is certainly in line with general desktop OS market share statistics [1] showing that Macs are only used by about 17% of the general population world wide with Windows taking the lion's share. Perhaps I've offended someones feelings with these statistics. Sorry, I can't apologize for facts though. [0] https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2020#technology-developers-primary-operating-systems https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2020#technology-de... [1] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide