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I love the tone of your writing (both in the post and on TweetingMachine), it's modest yet confident. Some feedback: * [Edit: Looks like it's right there in t

by shazow 16y ago

I love the tone of your writing (both in the post and on TweetingMachine), it's modest yet confident. Some feedback: * [Edit: Looks like it's right there in the center and I'm just blind. :)] I couldn't find the pricing after the 10 day trial anywhere. This frustrated me and made me not want to try it at all without knowing what I was getting into. * Twitter frowns upon auto-follow/unfollow services. You should be very careful with this. I recently had to make changes to my own service because the Twitter API policy team didn't like me telling people who unfollowed them. Great work, I look forward to the second part!

icedpulleys 16y ago
> I recently had to make changes to my own service because the Twitter API policy team didn't like me telling people who unfollowed them. Just curious: which section of the Twitter API ToS do you read as restricting notifying them of people that unfollowed them? I know that the API policy explicitly prohibits automated unfollowing and restricts automated following, but haven't ever seen anything that addresses notifications of a someone unfollowing another user.
- shazow 16y ago
  They referenced Section II.4.B, namely since native Twitter apps don't "organically display" unfollows, you should not as well. > Respect the features and functionality embedded with or included in Twitter Content or the Twitter API. Do not attempt to interfere with, intercept, disrupt, filter, or disable any features of the Twitter API or Twitter service, and you should only surface actions that are organically displayed on Twitter.
  - icedpulleys 16y ago
    Ah, that does seem to follow from the quoted section. Thanks for referencing it, I appreciate it. It's a big bummer as a potential Twitter-hacker, too. I can see why they wouldn't want clients & add-ons to surface unfollows, but it blankets quite a bit of functionality, and then it comes down to an issue of selective enforcement. Sigh.
    - shazow 16y ago
      You're welcome. The way I read it is "don't do things we don't already do" which is a really bad constraint, effectively forbidding any kind of innovation. I can understand the spirit of their selective desire to address this specific violation, but I'm not convinced it's as much of a problem as they're making it to be. Oh well.
pwim 16y ago
[Edit: Looks like it's right there in the center and I'm just blind. :)] I couldn't find the pricing either, so I think it is hiding in plain sight.
- tansey 16y ago
  Totally agree. I thought it wasn't listed anywhere until I looked at the comments here. It would probably improve conversions a lot if there was a simple "Pricing" tab at the top.

by shazow 16y ago

icedpulleys 16y ago

> I recently had to make changes to my own service because the Twitter API policy team didn't like me telling people who unfollowed them. Just curious: which section of the Twitter API ToS do you read as restricting notifying them of people that unfollowed them? I know that the API policy explicitly prohibits automated unfollowing and restricts automated following, but haven't ever seen anything that addresses notifications of a someone unfollowing another user.

shazow 16y ago
They referenced Section II.4.B, namely since native Twitter apps don't "organically display" unfollows, you should not as well. > Respect the features and functionality embedded with or included in Twitter Content or the Twitter API. Do not attempt to interfere with, intercept, disrupt, filter, or disable any features of the Twitter API or Twitter service, and you should only surface actions that are organically displayed on Twitter.
- icedpulleys 16y ago
  Ah, that does seem to follow from the quoted section. Thanks for referencing it, I appreciate it. It's a big bummer as a potential Twitter-hacker, too. I can see why they wouldn't want clients & add-ons to surface unfollows, but it blankets quite a bit of functionality, and then it comes down to an issue of selective enforcement. Sigh.
  - shazow 16y ago
    You're welcome. The way I read it is "don't do things we don't already do" which is a really bad constraint, effectively forbidding any kind of innovation. I can understand the spirit of their selective desire to address this specific violation, but I'm not convinced it's as much of a problem as they're making it to be. Oh well.

pwim 16y ago

[Edit: Looks like it's right there in the center and I'm just blind. :)] I couldn't find the pricing either, so I think it is hiding in plain sight.

tansey 16y ago
Totally agree. I thought it wasn't listed anywhere until I looked at the comments here. It would probably improve conversions a lot if there was a simple "Pricing" tab at the top.