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Key phrase: “where we can link to a news article” There’s not going to be an “accuse of racism” button. This feature is “if a business is being publicly accuse

Key phrase: “where we can link to a news article” There’s not going to be an “accuse of racism” button. This feature is “if a business is being publicly accused of racism in a credible newspaper, we’ll note it on the page.” Which is a lot more reasonable, imo.

ceilingcorner 6y ago
> credible newspaper Does such a thing exist anymore?
- curiousllama 6y ago
  Yes? Especially for local news.
  - giantDinosaur 6y ago
    You're joking right?
    - curiousllama 6y ago
      What’s the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ever done to you? Or the Altoona Mirror?
konjin 6y ago
What's a reasonable newspaper? The NYT has lost its mind over the 1619 project. If I can trust the NYT to get basic facts of history right who can I trust in media?
- fred_is_fred 6y ago
  In what way?
  - gwright 6y ago
    https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/174140 https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/174140
- curiousllama 6y ago
  I’m a fan of the Sun-Gazette in the DC area, personally. I’ve heard good things about the State-Journal Register, too. Forgive the snark, but the existence of unreasonable organizations does not preclude the existence of reasonable ones. And even unreasonable ones are not incapable of reason. Applies to people within the orgs, too.
AmericanChopper 6y ago
How many credible newspapers are currently being sued for falsely labelling people as racist?
MeinBlutIstBlau 6y ago
So when CNN and MSNBC call that smiling trump kid a racist and assumed he was wrong, we were supposed to believe they had honest intentions from the start? Newspapers have retractions. Yelp has an extortion policy to remove bad reviews. And you can bet they won't remove that flag even if there are 30 retractions.
- curiousllama 6y ago
  That’s fair - if CNN is covering a rando restaurant, things have gotten out of hand. Probably best just to block reviews for that restaurant, no? Because that’s what the feature is. Regardless, CNN doesn’t often cover these stories. Local news does. And local news doesn’t suck. Btw, please forgive the snark, but a complete lack of faith in local journalism (I.e. a conflation of CNN and the Altoona Mirror) is a big reason cable news has a lot of power. TLDR - support local journalists!
  - konjin 6y ago
    >That’s fair - if CNN is covering a rando restaurant, things have gotten out of hand. Probably best just to block reviews for that restaurant, no? Because that’s what the feature is. CNN has bullied redditors to make a public apology and never say anything cnn editors consider racist or else: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/6lcdp9/did_cnn_blackmail_a_user_on_reddit_over_a_gif_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/6lcdp9/did_... >CNN is not publishing "HanAholeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same. >CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.
  - xenophonB 6y ago
    "And local news doesn’t suck." Almost every single "business accused of racism" story in the media story turns out to be a hoax. (for obvious reasons, being a victim is now the way to societal approval) Local news covers these accusations, so it doesn't matter whether they're accurate about the fact that there is no actual evidence for a claim, that will still allow Yelp to label the business as "accused of racism".

ceilingcorner 6y ago

> credible newspaper Does such a thing exist anymore?

curiousllama 6y ago
Yes? Especially for local news.
- giantDinosaur 6y ago
  You're joking right?
  - curiousllama 6y ago
    What’s the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ever done to you? Or the Altoona Mirror?

konjin 6y ago

What's a reasonable newspaper? The NYT has lost its mind over the 1619 project. If I can trust the NYT to get basic facts of history right who can I trust in media?

fred_is_fred 6y ago
In what way?
- gwright 6y ago
  https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/174140 https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/174140
curiousllama 6y ago
I’m a fan of the Sun-Gazette in the DC area, personally. I’ve heard good things about the State-Journal Register, too. Forgive the snark, but the existence of unreasonable organizations does not preclude the existence of reasonable ones. And even unreasonable ones are not incapable of reason. Applies to people within the orgs, too.

AmericanChopper 6y ago

How many credible newspapers are currently being sued for falsely labelling people as racist?

MeinBlutIstBlau 6y ago

So when CNN and MSNBC call that smiling trump kid a racist and assumed he was wrong, we were supposed to believe they had honest intentions from the start? Newspapers have retractions. Yelp has an extortion policy to remove bad reviews. And you can bet they won't remove that flag even if there are 30 retractions.

curiousllama 6y ago
That’s fair - if CNN is covering a rando restaurant, things have gotten out of hand. Probably best just to block reviews for that restaurant, no? Because that’s what the feature is. Regardless, CNN doesn’t often cover these stories. Local news does. And local news doesn’t suck. Btw, please forgive the snark, but a complete lack of faith in local journalism (I.e. a conflation of CNN and the Altoona Mirror) is a big reason cable news has a lot of power. TLDR - support local journalists!
- konjin 6y ago
  >That’s fair - if CNN is covering a rando restaurant, things have gotten out of hand. Probably best just to block reviews for that restaurant, no? Because that’s what the feature is. CNN has bullied redditors to make a public apology and never say anything cnn editors consider racist or else: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/6lcdp9/did_cnn_blackmail_a_user_on_reddit_over_a_gif_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/6lcdp9/did_... >CNN is not publishing "HanAholeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same. >CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.
- xenophonB 6y ago
  "And local news doesn’t suck." Almost every single "business accused of racism" story in the media story turns out to be a hoax. (for obvious reasons, being a victim is now the way to societal approval) Local news covers these accusations, so it doesn't matter whether they're accurate about the fact that there is no actual evidence for a claim, that will still allow Yelp to label the business as "accused of racism".