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Yes, because that is the general approach, companies are giving away all sorts of free money with no expectation of tit for tat as long as you never unionize. T

Yes, because that is the general approach, companies are giving away all sorts of free money with no expectation of tit for tat as long as you never unionize. The dress code and vacation policy will get worse if you have a collective voice? Where do people living in a capitalist economy get the idea their bosses are socialists who are giving things away?

kevingadd 6y ago
It'd be presumptuous for me to call this "uniquely american" but there's a really deeply embedded part of the american philosophy that suggests merely having a job is a gift and you owe everything to your employer, even if they abuse you or steal your wages or injure you through neglect or lay you off for getting the flu. People should be grateful that they have their job at McBurgerchain even though it only pays minimum wage and 120hrs/wk at that minimum wage might not be enough to pay for rent and food in their area, if they can even get 120hrs across 3 jobs (they probably can't). If you look at a lot of the chatter that leads towards discussions of unionization in workplaces these days, it's really mundane stuff and not Politics or Socialism. People talking about blatantly abusive employer behavior, wage theft, poor safety/hygiene, bad benefits, etc - an employer can easily mitigate a lot of this stuff and have happy workers who won't have much reason to unionize, and I think part of the reason unions are so rare in tech to this day is that many tech employees are satisfied. If a tech workplace unionizes I think that's an obvious sign that the employees were unhappy enough to go through all the trouble of doing it, it's not something they'd do on a whim.
- tclancy 6y ago
  You wouldn’t understand the temporarily embarrassed millionaires here. It’s also American to be horrified by my compatriots willingness to accept the bare minimum they receive as good as it gets.

kevingadd 6y ago

It'd be presumptuous for me to call this "uniquely american" but there's a really deeply embedded part of the american philosophy that suggests merely having a job is a gift and you owe everything to your employer, even if they abuse you or steal your wages or injure you through neglect or lay you off for getting the flu. People should be grateful that they have their job at McBurgerchain even though it only pays minimum wage and 120hrs/wk at that minimum wage might not be enough to pay for rent and food in their area, if they can even get 120hrs across 3 jobs (they probably can't). If you look at a lot of the chatter that leads towards discussions of unionization in workplaces these days, it's really mundane stuff and not Politics or Socialism. People talking about blatantly abusive employer behavior, wage theft, poor safety/hygiene, bad benefits, etc - an employer can easily mitigate a lot of this stuff and have happy workers who won't have much reason to unionize, and I think part of the reason unions are so rare in tech to this day is that many tech employees are satisfied. If a tech workplace unionizes I think that's an obvious sign that the employees were unhappy enough to go through all the trouble of doing it, it's not something they'd do on a whim.

tclancy 6y ago
You wouldn’t understand the temporarily embarrassed millionaires here. It’s also American to be horrified by my compatriots willingness to accept the bare minimum they receive as good as it gets.