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I understand that applying utilitarian principles to a strictly deontological framework like the law is pointless, but the API issue is a situation where, regar

I understand that applying utilitarian principles to a strictly deontological framework like the law is pointless, but the API issue is a situation where, regardless of the precedent or ideas about authorship, the adverse impact of a ruling in favor of Oracle on the broader tech sector seems like it should be the cardinal consideration.

nojito 6y ago
This entire topic was discussed during the oral arguments. Google can not prove these adverse effects that they continue to claim will happen. They have had 6 years to do so and yet they can not state a single instance.
- syshum 6y ago
  Because all of the copyright Trolls are waiting for the court to rule API's are copyrightable. Although it would be HILARIOUS if Amazon Sues Oracle on day one after the ruling for their copying of the S3 API. That said there are ALL KINDS of interop code that is at risk with the ruling, only people with their heads in the sand and do not understand the industry at all believe that nothing negative will come about if this ruling stands
  - tylerchr 6y ago
    > That said there are ALL KINDS of interop code that is at risk with the ruling Yes, there are parties that stand to lose a lot in the short term from a decision for Oracle. But would it be so bad in the long term if proprietary vendor-specific protocols were put at a disadvantage? Maybe back-to-basics open protocols (or at least protocols formally contributed to the public domain) would resurge, and interoperability would actually _increase._
    - syshum 6y ago
      Yes because the entire history of software industry shows what the problems are with Vendor Lock-in and how it will be abused Oracle is a case book study if it, that is their entire business model
  - nojito 6y ago
    >Because all of the copyright Trolls are waiting for the court to rule API's are copyrightable. This isn't how the courts work and it's sad that Google has pushed this nonsense for the past 6 years.

nojito 6y ago

This entire topic was discussed during the oral arguments. Google can not prove these adverse effects that they continue to claim will happen. They have had 6 years to do so and yet they can not state a single instance.

syshum 6y ago
Because all of the copyright Trolls are waiting for the court to rule API's are copyrightable. Although it would be HILARIOUS if Amazon Sues Oracle on day one after the ruling for their copying of the S3 API. That said there are ALL KINDS of interop code that is at risk with the ruling, only people with their heads in the sand and do not understand the industry at all believe that nothing negative will come about if this ruling stands
- tylerchr 6y ago
  > That said there are ALL KINDS of interop code that is at risk with the ruling Yes, there are parties that stand to lose a lot in the short term from a decision for Oracle. But would it be so bad in the long term if proprietary vendor-specific protocols were put at a disadvantage? Maybe back-to-basics open protocols (or at least protocols formally contributed to the public domain) would resurge, and interoperability would actually _increase._
  - syshum 6y ago
    Yes because the entire history of software industry shows what the problems are with Vendor Lock-in and how it will be abused Oracle is a case book study if it, that is their entire business model
- nojito 6y ago
  >Because all of the copyright Trolls are waiting for the court to rule API's are copyrightable. This isn't how the courts work and it's sad that Google has pushed this nonsense for the past 6 years.