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I am also a Tesla owner, and you can talk to Tesla owners and get their perspective on Tesla's autopilot capabilities. I have owned Tesla for 5 years, and also

by dmode 6y ago

I am also a Tesla owner, and you can talk to Tesla owners and get their perspective on Tesla's autopilot capabilities. I have owned Tesla for 5 years, and also have a 2018 Model 3. Tesla is nowhere close to full self driving capability, and cannot still handle basic uses cases like driving on well marked freeways within lanes without randomly phantom braking.

nickik 6y ago
Payoff to investment and work is not always linear. In something this difficult I going with the approach I believe in. I'm not gone change my opinion on that because of a specific problem of the current version. Maybe if Waymo demonstrates that they can drive on and off all major highways in the world without hd mapping of them. Then i might believe they are ahead.
- ra7 6y ago
  > Maybe if Waymo demonstrates that they can drive on and off all major highways in the world without hd mapping of them. Then i might believe they are ahead. So, can Tesla do this right now? Also, why should Waymo not use HD mapping when they clearly have the ability to do it? Seems like a weird criteria.
  - nickik 6y ago
    Because you can't map the whole constantly changing world. And its highly questionable that their mapping can actually deal with all the incredibly complexity of the real world. I'm going with the better process, not the better demo.
    - ra7 6y ago
      > And its highly questionable that their mapping can actually deal with all the incredibly complexity of the real world. Funny, I have the same the opinion of Tesla’s camera-only approach. > I'm going with the better process, not the better demo. A “demo” with 20 million autonomous miles clocked vs 12.2 miles. The “process” that has so far yielded very little in terms of actual autonomous driving if you ignore the FSD marketing speak.

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I am also a Tesla owner, and you can talk to Tesla owners and get their perspective on Tesla's autopilot capabilities. I have owned Tesla for 5 years, and also

by dmode 6y ago

nickik 6y ago
Payoff to investment and work is not always linear. In something this difficult I going with the approach I believe in. I'm not gone change my opinion on that because of a specific problem of the current version. Maybe if Waymo demonstrates that they can drive on and off all major highways in the world without hd mapping of them. Then i might believe they are ahead.
- ra7 6y ago
  > Maybe if Waymo demonstrates that they can drive on and off all major highways in the world without hd mapping of them. Then i might believe they are ahead. So, can Tesla do this right now? Also, why should Waymo not use HD mapping when they clearly have the ability to do it? Seems like a weird criteria.
  - nickik 6y ago
    Because you can't map the whole constantly changing world. And its highly questionable that their mapping can actually deal with all the incredibly complexity of the real world. I'm going with the better process, not the better demo.
    - ra7 6y ago
      > And its highly questionable that their mapping can actually deal with all the incredibly complexity of the real world. Funny, I have the same the opinion of Tesla’s camera-only approach. > I'm going with the better process, not the better demo. A “demo” with 20 million autonomous miles clocked vs 12.2 miles. The “process” that has so far yielded very little in terms of actual autonomous driving if you ignore the FSD marketing speak.