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Keep in mind this is not a government ban, but a private business saying we don't want your lies and garbage here. Every restaurant has the right to get rid of

Keep in mind this is not a government ban, but a private business saying we don't want your lies and garbage here. Every restaurant has the right to get rid of someone destroying their place, why can't Facebook?

krapp 6y ago
>Every restaurant has the right to get rid of someone destroying their place, why can't Facebook? I don't know. It's weird how this was a non-issue until around 2016, when all of a sudden it became an existential threat to free speech and civilization itself. It's almost as if there's a tacit agenda behind the presentation of concern for free speech in the general case, with the goal of normalizing extremist right-wing speech in parallel with its increasing adoption and normalization within a specific mainstream American political party.
gdulli 6y ago
> Every restaurant has the right to get rid of someone destroying their place, why can't Facebook? In this case, the two are linked. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Ping_Pong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Ping_Pong "The restaurant is the center of the debunked Pizzagate conspiracy theory, which has been discredited by a wide variety of organizations, including the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia. One Pizzagate activist fired a gun in the restaurant in 2016, and another started a fire in it in 2019."
- aleister_777 6y ago
  Pizzagate dropped in 2016. The shooting happened in Dec 2016. Q's first post wasn't until Oct 2017. Two things are being conflated here.
atom_arranger 6y ago
It would be more like a restaurant banning people for talking about things they did not like.
- Can_Not 6y ago
  Restaurants probably ban people for wearing Nazi paraphernalia, using the nword loudly, etc.. All the time.
zests 6y ago
That's not really what the article is about if you read the entire thing. I almost didn't read the article either but it had surprising depth to it.
- kls 6y ago
  It is a well thought out and well put together article. In todays day and age and current climate, classical enlightenment era spawned liberal thinking is a nice change of pace.
thinkingemote 6y ago
And yet we campaign for these private companies to censor things on our behalf, such as russian fake news. If a government is meant to represent a people, would a governments pressure on a private company be the same?

krapp 6y ago

>Every restaurant has the right to get rid of someone destroying their place, why can't Facebook? I don't know. It's weird how this was a non-issue until around 2016, when all of a sudden it became an existential threat to free speech and civilization itself. It's almost as if there's a tacit agenda behind the presentation of concern for free speech in the general case, with the goal of normalizing extremist right-wing speech in parallel with its increasing adoption and normalization within a specific mainstream American political party.

gdulli 6y ago

> Every restaurant has the right to get rid of someone destroying their place, why can't Facebook? In this case, the two are linked. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Ping_Pong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Ping_Pong "The restaurant is the center of the debunked Pizzagate conspiracy theory, which has been discredited by a wide variety of organizations, including the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia. One Pizzagate activist fired a gun in the restaurant in 2016, and another started a fire in it in 2019."

aleister_777 6y ago
Pizzagate dropped in 2016. The shooting happened in Dec 2016. Q's first post wasn't until Oct 2017. Two things are being conflated here.

atom_arranger 6y ago

It would be more like a restaurant banning people for talking about things they did not like.

Can_Not 6y ago
Restaurants probably ban people for wearing Nazi paraphernalia, using the nword loudly, etc.. All the time.

zests 6y ago

That's not really what the article is about if you read the entire thing. I almost didn't read the article either but it had surprising depth to it.

kls 6y ago
It is a well thought out and well put together article. In todays day and age and current climate, classical enlightenment era spawned liberal thinking is a nice change of pace.

thinkingemote 6y ago

And yet we campaign for these private companies to censor things on our behalf, such as russian fake news. If a government is meant to represent a people, would a governments pressure on a private company be the same?