They shifted towards offering `services` more as in mid to late 90's, this is just a logical progression down that demise of what IBM once was. But the mainfra

They shifted towards offering `services` more as in mid to late 90's, this is just a logical progression down that demise of what IBM once was. But the mainframe regular income - that has always been a bit of bread and butter for them and to wave that away, really.