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First-graders should not, under any circumstances, have homework assignments that need to be graded. Furthermore, berating children as described borders on abus

First-graders should not, under any circumstances, have homework assignments that need to be graded. Furthermore, berating children as described borders on abuse. This teacher has absolutely no idea what they are doing and should be fired.

engineer_22 6y ago
Teachers are people. You may find that hiring perfect persons to teach first grade is difficult. The children will be fine.
- bdamm 6y ago
  If the people you want to raise are people who are passive aggressive whiners who complain behind their bosses backs to their underlings while dodging responsibility then yes, the children will be fine.
  - engineer_22 6y ago
    What?
- swivelmaster 6y ago
  Uh, no. These kids are being taught that their needs are basically unimportant compared to the teacher's needs, that their feelings are unimportant compared to the teacher's feelings, that they are a burden on their teacher's time and energy, and that they shouldn't even ask questions when they don't understand something. There are several educators in my immediate family, and several friends as well. I guarantee you every single one of them would be HORRIFIED by this amount of selfishness and lack of self-control this teacher is demonstrating. This teacher needs to be, if not fired, put on leave and recommended a mental health evaluation. In their current state they are unable to satisfactorily educate and/or care for small children. I suspect you don't have kids.
  - engineer_22 6y ago
    I appreciate your guarantees, but I think we're getting really riled up over one parent's anecdotal report about a teacher in an unusual and stressful situation. After generating this much attention I'm certain the thoroughly embarrassed teacher will be more careful. The children will be fine.
  - skim_milk 6y ago
    Transcendentalism to American religious conservative organizations like this teacher is a part of is pretty much all about disassociating from all feeling in order to improve and become a more productive human. Of course, on our side, transcendentalism is about understanding feelings&emotions, where they come from, and the process of healing from emotional pain inflicted during childhood in order to prevent passing our pain on to other people in order to become a more productive human. When we respond point and laugh at emotional disassociation, the other side is only going to get enraged because emotional disassociation is "the truth" towards some form of improvement. We need to better articulate why disassociating from emotions isn't better because simply pointing out that the child's emotional needs aren't being met doesn't mean anything when emotional disassociation is truth to these people raised in these institutions. (just to be entirely clear, I agree with you wholeheartedly, big picture we just need to understand where the person you're replying to might be coming from in order to articulate an argument that has some meaning to the other individual)
    - engineer_22 6y ago
      I feel like we're speaking different languages here.
- jrumbut 6y ago
  The article sounds par for the course in grade school. I'm in my 30's now so my memories aren't so fresh but I do wonder what utopian school the writer went to, if this really is unfamiliar. It does sound like, in the interest of making progress rather than perpetuating our own pains, that this teacher could use some support. Sounds like someone who wants to do well but is getting frayed by the difficult situation. Could a substitute take a couple periods here and there to give time for grading? Could there be some curriculum flexibility given the extra administrative? I don't know the answer but the nice thing is that it's a non-public school so they may have some autonomy to help.
  - swivelmaster 6y ago
    I'm in my thirties as well and I don't recall a teacher being strict with me until fourth grade. And I certainly didn't have homework that would have taken any time at all to "grade" at that point.
xupybd 6y ago
Grades help track progress.

engineer_22 6y ago

Teachers are people. You may find that hiring perfect persons to teach first grade is difficult. The children will be fine.

bdamm 6y ago
If the people you want to raise are people who are passive aggressive whiners who complain behind their bosses backs to their underlings while dodging responsibility then yes, the children will be fine.
- engineer_22 6y ago
  What?
swivelmaster 6y ago
Uh, no. These kids are being taught that their needs are basically unimportant compared to the teacher's needs, that their feelings are unimportant compared to the teacher's feelings, that they are a burden on their teacher's time and energy, and that they shouldn't even ask questions when they don't understand something. There are several educators in my immediate family, and several friends as well. I guarantee you every single one of them would be HORRIFIED by this amount of selfishness and lack of self-control this teacher is demonstrating. This teacher needs to be, if not fired, put on leave and recommended a mental health evaluation. In their current state they are unable to satisfactorily educate and/or care for small children. I suspect you don't have kids.
- engineer_22 6y ago
  I appreciate your guarantees, but I think we're getting really riled up over one parent's anecdotal report about a teacher in an unusual and stressful situation. After generating this much attention I'm certain the thoroughly embarrassed teacher will be more careful. The children will be fine.
- skim_milk 6y ago
  Transcendentalism to American religious conservative organizations like this teacher is a part of is pretty much all about disassociating from all feeling in order to improve and become a more productive human. Of course, on our side, transcendentalism is about understanding feelings&emotions, where they come from, and the process of healing from emotional pain inflicted during childhood in order to prevent passing our pain on to other people in order to become a more productive human. When we respond point and laugh at emotional disassociation, the other side is only going to get enraged because emotional disassociation is "the truth" towards some form of improvement. We need to better articulate why disassociating from emotions isn't better because simply pointing out that the child's emotional needs aren't being met doesn't mean anything when emotional disassociation is truth to these people raised in these institutions. (just to be entirely clear, I agree with you wholeheartedly, big picture we just need to understand where the person you're replying to might be coming from in order to articulate an argument that has some meaning to the other individual)
  - engineer_22 6y ago
    I feel like we're speaking different languages here.
jrumbut 6y ago
The article sounds par for the course in grade school. I'm in my 30's now so my memories aren't so fresh but I do wonder what utopian school the writer went to, if this really is unfamiliar. It does sound like, in the interest of making progress rather than perpetuating our own pains, that this teacher could use some support. Sounds like someone who wants to do well but is getting frayed by the difficult situation. Could a substitute take a couple periods here and there to give time for grading? Could there be some curriculum flexibility given the extra administrative? I don't know the answer but the nice thing is that it's a non-public school so they may have some autonomy to help.
- swivelmaster 6y ago
  I'm in my thirties as well and I don't recall a teacher being strict with me until fourth grade. And I certainly didn't have homework that would have taken any time at all to "grade" at that point.

xupybd 6y ago

Grades help track progress.