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Saying AWS uses it a lot is very misleading. Same for Microsoft. I won’t dispute that there are some teams using it but the majority of new projects aren’t in r

by aprdm 6y ago

Saying AWS uses it a lot is very misleading. Same for Microsoft. I won’t dispute that there are some teams using it but the majority of new projects aren’t in rust and there’s no trend for it.

steveklabnik 6y ago
Do you work at Amazon? That's not what it looks like from the outside. Lambda and Fargate are huge services, even if they're not all of AWS, and it only seems like they're ramping up more, even just from looking at the rate they're hiring Rust devs. Yes, it is not super massive, but it is in the production path for important things, and appears to be on quite an upward trajectory.
- adamnemecek 6y ago
  Also AWS Firecracker.
  - steveklabnik 6y ago
    Firecracker is the name of the project that is under Lambda and Fargate, yes.
    - adamnemecek 6y ago
      Ah ok.
- peculiar_throw 6y ago
  It’s not a majority of course, but I think ‘a lot’ is a fair assessment. It is indeed ramping up. Earlier this year there were public job postings for an AWS Rust SDK. I’ve also seen adoption for it in critical components outside of Lambda/Fargate.
- aprdm 6y ago
  AWS has 1000s of services (literally). I would bet the vast majority of them are written in Java, including the new ones. I do not work at Amazon but I do have a couple of friends there both in Seattle and Vancouver. Everybody wants to look cool from the outside :-), blogging about how you're using Java in 2020 is not cool.
  - steveklabnik 6y ago
    Yes, I am very much not saying that Rust is a majority of Amazon. That would be absolutely ridiculous.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Amazon services written in Java and .NET seem to be a tiny bit bigger.
eloff 6y ago
To be clear, I mean they're using it relatively more aggressively for new projects than other large enterprises. It's obviously early days and the vast majority of AWS services are implemented in other languages (probably java, but that's just an educated guess.)

by aprdm 6y ago

Saying AWS uses it a lot is very misleading. Same for Microsoft. I won’t dispute that there are some teams using it but the majority of new projects aren’t in rust and there’s no trend for it.

steveklabnik 6y ago

Do you work at Amazon? That's not what it looks like from the outside. Lambda and Fargate are huge services, even if they're not all of AWS, and it only seems like they're ramping up more, even just from looking at the rate they're hiring Rust devs. Yes, it is not super massive, but it is in the production path for important things, and appears to be on quite an upward trajectory.

adamnemecek 6y ago
Also AWS Firecracker.
- steveklabnik 6y ago
  Firecracker is the name of the project that is under Lambda and Fargate, yes.
  - adamnemecek 6y ago
    Ah ok.
peculiar_throw 6y ago
It’s not a majority of course, but I think ‘a lot’ is a fair assessment. It is indeed ramping up. Earlier this year there were public job postings for an AWS Rust SDK. I’ve also seen adoption for it in critical components outside of Lambda/Fargate.
aprdm 6y ago
AWS has 1000s of services (literally). I would bet the vast majority of them are written in Java, including the new ones. I do not work at Amazon but I do have a couple of friends there both in Seattle and Vancouver. Everybody wants to look cool from the outside :-), blogging about how you're using Java in 2020 is not cool.
- steveklabnik 6y ago
  Yes, I am very much not saying that Rust is a majority of Amazon. That would be absolutely ridiculous.
pjmlp 6y ago
Amazon services written in Java and .NET seem to be a tiny bit bigger.

eloff 6y ago

To be clear, I mean they're using it relatively more aggressively for new projects than other large enterprises. It's obviously early days and the vast majority of AWS services are implemented in other languages (probably java, but that's just an educated guess.)