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They seem to simply take it on faith that it's impossible for darker-skinned people to just have a higher chance of taking poor photos. This could be mediated b
by jlawson 6y ago
They seem to simply take it on faith that it's impossible for darker-skinned people to just have a higher chance of taking poor photos. This could be mediated by culture of income or a hundred other things.
They offer no way to evaluate the statistical validity of the conclusions drawn from "BBC Research". They looked at 1000 politicians, but what was the color breakdown of those? What was the actual sample size of dark-skinned people? Who coded the photos' skin colors and how? This is just utter garbage without any rigor at all.
Their "BBC Research" indicates that male faces read much better than female, but they don't comment on this at all. Why did they choose the race angle and not the sex angle?
Moreover there are real reasons why dark-skinned features are harder to read than light-skinned. It's the same reason things are hard to make out in the dark, or you can't tell the features of an object covered in vantablack. It's physics. Less light means less information.
This whole article is the perfect distillation of low-effort motivated race baiting. To an astute reader it proves the opposite of its bias - if this is what is considered racial greivance worthy of breathless BBC articles, there must really be nothing significant going on to complain about.
There is zero chance that anything like this would ever have been published if the results went the other way, no matter to what degree.
- another-dave 6y agoDefinitely agree the level of detail in the article wouldn't get published in an academic journal, though they do mention: "Kirstie Whitaker, programme lead for tools, practices and systems at the Alan Turing Institute, reviewed our code, independently reproduced our results, and provided input on the validity of the reported outcomes." Would be interesting to see a proper write-up of the same study. That said, let's say that it is taken as given that it's harder for a ML set-up to determine good photos for dark skin. Should it be used at all then? Is it acceptable that it's harder for the ~15% of the population to get a passport than the rest of the population because of an algorithm in the loop? I don't think you can put it down to other factors like socio-economics as the Home Office reproduced this in their user testing before launch and acknowledged as a problem of the system (Vs the photos)
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- thinkingemote 6y agoAlmost all passport photos in the UK are taken via approved automatic booths. Hardly anyone takes their own passport photos. Only the very rich would get a professional photographer.