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Ask HN: Will Trumps overhaul of the H1B Visa equal job security for Americans?

4 points by gamechangr 6y ago

mdorazio 6y ago
I have long been opposed to the current H1B system and want to see it entirely dismantled in favor of a bidding system paired with a clear path to citizenship for recipients so that we are both guaranteed H1B holders in the US are people whom US companies really need and are willing to pay top dollar for and that those same people stay in the US and contribute to it long-term. This overhaul is not that. It will still have plenty of loopholes for companies to take advantage of in one way or another and will still allow abuses. Furthermore, the current economic situation of many white collar workers working from home for a year or more is likely making many employers rethink their stance on pay levels for local workers and opportunities to off/near-shore work that's being done remotely anyway. In short, I think this overhaul might help improve job security and pay for some workers in some industries, but overall it's not a great solution if those are your goals.
- gamechangr 6y ago
  I'm not familiar enough with it. My first thought is my friends that are H1B sometimes have to deal with uncertainty that it seems would be better to eliminate. I recognize that H1B was not and is not meant to be addressing the same issues as a green card. So perhaps companies are abusing the H1B and we just need a better green card system? That's more of a question to those who's life are directly effected or well informed.
dudul 6y ago
No
- gamechangr 6y ago
  That's the intent though right?
  - dudul 6y ago
    No. Job security in the US doesn't exist. The changes are just trying to close some loopholes and get the program back to its essence: a way to temporarily hire skilled workers for which there is a shortage in the US. It doesn't give any job security to school teachers, waiters, electricians, lawyers, etc. The entire workforce is not composed of tech people.

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Ask HN: Will Trumps overhaul of the H1B Visa equal job security for Americans?

4 points by gamechangr 6y ago

mdorazio 6y ago
I have long been opposed to the current H1B system and want to see it entirely dismantled in favor of a bidding system paired with a clear path to citizenship for recipients so that we are both guaranteed H1B holders in the US are people whom US companies really need and are willing to pay top dollar for and that those same people stay in the US and contribute to it long-term. This overhaul is not that. It will still have plenty of loopholes for companies to take advantage of in one way or another and will still allow abuses. Furthermore, the current economic situation of many white collar workers working from home for a year or more is likely making many employers rethink their stance on pay levels for local workers and opportunities to off/near-shore work that's being done remotely anyway. In short, I think this overhaul might help improve job security and pay for some workers in some industries, but overall it's not a great solution if those are your goals.
- gamechangr 6y ago
  I'm not familiar enough with it. My first thought is my friends that are H1B sometimes have to deal with uncertainty that it seems would be better to eliminate. I recognize that H1B was not and is not meant to be addressing the same issues as a green card. So perhaps companies are abusing the H1B and we just need a better green card system? That's more of a question to those who's life are directly effected or well informed.
dudul 6y ago
No
- gamechangr 6y ago
  That's the intent though right?
  - dudul 6y ago
    No. Job security in the US doesn't exist. The changes are just trying to close some loopholes and get the program back to its essence: a way to temporarily hire skilled workers for which there is a shortage in the US. It doesn't give any job security to school teachers, waiters, electricians, lawyers, etc. The entire workforce is not composed of tech people.