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You can't just walk into Palestine, build a school, and teach the children there to be peaceful. It's not just that no parents will send their kids to your scho

by xlnt 18y ago

You can't just walk into Palestine, build a school, and teach the children there to be peaceful. It's not just that no parents will send their kids to your school; it's also that people there will kill you for trying to do this.

JabavuAdams 18y ago
Straw-man generalization. Read the specific claims in the article about the mothers who persuaded their sons to leave the Taliban. We need to imprison or kill the violent people who can't be reasoned with, but we need to offer an alternative to those who are capable of choosing one. Over time, their numbers will grow. Educating, and eventually, empowering women helps on all fronts.
- xlnt 18y ago
  My position is that we need missiles and schools both. The fact that there are places where we can't set up schools makes clear that we sometimes need the missiles. As far as I can tell from your comment, you agree with me. You, too, think there are people we need to kill.
- trezor 18y ago
  Educating, and eventually, empowering women helps on all fronts. Interesting claim. Not that I say that we should blatantly discriminate against women, but would you argue that the discrimination against women in our culture and history in any way seems to have inhibited the development of our civilization? Women's liberation is a rather recent thing and I say we have still done quite well.
  - xlnt 18y ago
    If you look at the history of philosophy or science you don't find a lot of women. But there could have been. It's a shame. The more scientists and philosophers (and many other things) the faster we make progress.
  - JabavuAdams 18y ago
    I wasn't so much talking about us, but about developing countries. More educated, empowered women tend to have fewer children, and take a greater role in managing their families' finances. All this supposedly leads to fewer angry young men in the world.

by xlnt 18y ago

JabavuAdams 18y ago

Straw-man generalization. Read the specific claims in the article about the mothers who persuaded their sons to leave the Taliban. We need to imprison or kill the violent people who can't be reasoned with, but we need to offer an alternative to those who are capable of choosing one. Over time, their numbers will grow. Educating, and eventually, empowering women helps on all fronts.

xlnt 18y ago
My position is that we need missiles and schools both. The fact that there are places where we can't set up schools makes clear that we sometimes need the missiles. As far as I can tell from your comment, you agree with me. You, too, think there are people we need to kill.
trezor 18y ago
Educating, and eventually, empowering women helps on all fronts. Interesting claim. Not that I say that we should blatantly discriminate against women, but would you argue that the discrimination against women in our culture and history in any way seems to have inhibited the development of our civilization? Women's liberation is a rather recent thing and I say we have still done quite well.
- xlnt 18y ago
  If you look at the history of philosophy or science you don't find a lot of women. But there could have been. It's a shame. The more scientists and philosophers (and many other things) the faster we make progress.
- JabavuAdams 18y ago
  I wasn't so much talking about us, but about developing countries. More educated, empowered women tend to have fewer children, and take a greater role in managing their families' finances. All this supposedly leads to fewer angry young men in the world.