> It's really hard to pull them back to use off-the-shelf tech, don't over optimize, etc. There is an argument to be made here about career and skill growth. I

> It's really hard to pull them back to use off-the-shelf tech, don't over optimize, etc. There is an argument to be made here about career and skill growth. I left my previous job which was basically business-logic-to-CRUD-in-a-complex-domain simply because I stopped growing there. The moment you stop growing in software industry is the moment your career dies, at least that's my perception at this time given my personal experiences.