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Concorde’s other problem was newfangled airport security. Why spend 5x on tickets for a 3h flight if you spend 2h at airports anyway? The day is wasted to trave

by Swizec 6y ago

Concorde’s other problem was newfangled airport security. Why spend 5x on tickets for a 3h flight if you spend 2h at airports anyway? The day is wasted to travel regardless.

chrisseaton 6y ago
> The day is wasted to travel regardless. This doesn't add up. At the moment when I fly from the UK to New York I leave my house at 6 AM and could be in the city by just after lunch. With supersonic, including airport and transfer times, I could literally get up at my normal time in the UK and arrive to get a full working day in New York. None of the day is wasted.
- Swizec 6y ago
  You’re right it works in one direction. Now add to that 5x pricing. Worth it? In the other direction it’s harder. Too short to sleep on the plane, too long to get a full day. If you want to be in London at 9am, you’re leaving NYC at 2am-ish for a supersonic flight. (1h transit to airport, 2h at airport, 3h flight, 1h transit to London)
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > If you want to be in London at 9am, you’re leaving NYC at 2am-ish for a supersonic flight. (1h transit to airport, 2h at airport, 3h flight, 1h transit to London) I'm not sure what you mean - that gets you into London at 2pm not 9am (2am + 1 + 2 + 3 = 9am New York = 2pm London.) To get into London at 9am you'd need to leave New York City at 10pm (9am - 1 - 3 - 2 = 3am London = 10pm New York. Which seems fine you're doing it overnight no days lost? You'd not get tons of sleep that night but you're not wasting a day either way. Could leave at 8pm and get two hours's sleep in the arrivals lounge! And leaving at 10pm instead of 5pm as you have to now makes all the difference because it now isn't interfering with your day at all! That was the goal wasn't it? Makes it worth it?
    - Swizec 6y ago
      You're right I mathed wrong. The problem is that on 3 hours of sleep now that I'm over 30, the next day is lost. As for worth it, prob depends on who you are and why you're flying and how much more than a normal ticket it ends up costing. For me paying 5x the price isn't worth it under any circumstances. And I'm pretty productive on airplanes (esp now with good wifi) so 3h vs. 6h flight isn't a big deal.

by Swizec 6y ago

Concorde’s other problem was newfangled airport security. Why spend 5x on tickets for a 3h flight if you spend 2h at airports anyway? The day is wasted to travel regardless.

chrisseaton 6y ago

> The day is wasted to travel regardless. This doesn't add up. At the moment when I fly from the UK to New York I leave my house at 6 AM and could be in the city by just after lunch. With supersonic, including airport and transfer times, I could literally get up at my normal time in the UK and arrive to get a full working day in New York. None of the day is wasted.

Swizec 6y ago
You’re right it works in one direction. Now add to that 5x pricing. Worth it? In the other direction it’s harder. Too short to sleep on the plane, too long to get a full day. If you want to be in London at 9am, you’re leaving NYC at 2am-ish for a supersonic flight. (1h transit to airport, 2h at airport, 3h flight, 1h transit to London)
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > If you want to be in London at 9am, you’re leaving NYC at 2am-ish for a supersonic flight. (1h transit to airport, 2h at airport, 3h flight, 1h transit to London) I'm not sure what you mean - that gets you into London at 2pm not 9am (2am + 1 + 2 + 3 = 9am New York = 2pm London.) To get into London at 9am you'd need to leave New York City at 10pm (9am - 1 - 3 - 2 = 3am London = 10pm New York. Which seems fine you're doing it overnight no days lost? You'd not get tons of sleep that night but you're not wasting a day either way. Could leave at 8pm and get two hours's sleep in the arrivals lounge! And leaving at 10pm instead of 5pm as you have to now makes all the difference because it now isn't interfering with your day at all! That was the goal wasn't it? Makes it worth it?
  - Swizec 6y ago
    You're right I mathed wrong. The problem is that on 3 hours of sleep now that I'm over 30, the next day is lost. As for worth it, prob depends on who you are and why you're flying and how much more than a normal ticket it ends up costing. For me paying 5x the price isn't worth it under any circumstances. And I'm pretty productive on airplanes (esp now with good wifi) so 3h vs. 6h flight isn't a big deal.