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So how does it work for them? What's the typical pay rate in Kickstarter?

by ry454 6y ago

andlarry 6y ago
It seemed to help with severance when they got rid of 40% of their staff a few months after the union was formed [0]. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/13/21257585/kickstarter-layoffs-employees-union-negotiations-severance https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/13/21257585/kickstarter-layo...
- sanxiyn 6y ago
  Indeed a very good example of what union can do for you.
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- ry454 6y ago
  How much was that severance exactly?
  - fatnoah 6y ago
    IIRC, four months pay and health insurance for those making > $110k and six months for everyone else...or something like that. That does seem pretty generous, especially for a company that small.
- oh_sigh 6y ago
  The article doesn't actually say that the union is responsible for employees getting severance packages. The closest thing to a direct effect of the union is that some union members were offered a buy-out package to quit.
thu2111 6y ago
It worked out great! If by "working out" you mean cementing the rule of left wing extremists. Remember that Kickstarter didn't unionise over wages or worker rights. They unionised because Kickstarter management removed a funding project that was violating their terms of use, by being filled with hatred towards and calls to violence against conservatives. The Kickstarter workers are so Marxist that they actually unionised the workplace in order to force it to re-instate the funding for this project, against the will of management. The article goes into all this in detail. Kickstarter is exhibit A in the case against unions in tech. They aren't gonna be used to give everyone a pay rise and more vacation. They will be used to try and cement the rule of radical extremists over management, they will force you to join them and fund them via union fees, and then they will use those fees to engage in anti-worker jeremiads against the white and asian men that make up most of the workforce.
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- Quarrelsome 6y ago
  You should travel outside of your bubble. Unionising is not extreme.
  - thu2111 6y ago
    Where did I claim unionising is extreme? I claimed that Kickstarter specifically unionised because of extremism, namely, the belief that it's essential to help fund those advocating violence against conservatives (or really, anyone who isn't Marxist). I also claimed that other SV tech firms that unionise will probably do so for similar reasons, rather than the classical (non extreme) reasons that affect everyone like wages or working conditions.

So how does it work for them? What's the typical pay rate in Kickstarter?

by ry454 6y ago

So how does it work for them? What's the typical pay rate in Kickstarter?

It seemed to help with severance when they got rid of 40% of their staff a few months after the union was formed [0]. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/13/21257585/kickstarter-layoffs-employees-union-negotiations-severance https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/13/21257585/kickstarter-layo...

sanxiyn 6y ago
Indeed a very good example of what union can do for you.
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ry454 6y ago
How much was that severance exactly?
- fatnoah 6y ago
  IIRC, four months pay and health insurance for those making > $110k and six months for everyone else...or something like that. That does seem pretty generous, especially for a company that small.
oh_sigh 6y ago
The article doesn't actually say that the union is responsible for employees getting severance packages. The closest thing to a direct effect of the union is that some union members were offered a buy-out package to quit.

thu2111 6y ago

It worked out great! If by "working out" you mean cementing the rule of left wing extremists. Remember that Kickstarter didn't unionise over wages or worker rights. They unionised because Kickstarter management removed a funding project that was violating their terms of use, by being filled with hatred towards and calls to violence against conservatives. The Kickstarter workers are so Marxist that they actually unionised the workplace in order to force it to re-instate the funding for this project, against the will of management. The article goes into all this in detail. Kickstarter is exhibit A in the case against unions in tech. They aren't gonna be used to give everyone a pay rise and more vacation. They will be used to try and cement the rule of radical extremists over management, they will force you to join them and fund them via union fees, and then they will use those fees to engage in anti-worker jeremiads against the white and asian men that make up most of the workforce.

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Quarrelsome 6y ago
You should travel outside of your bubble. Unionising is not extreme.
- thu2111 6y ago
  Where did I claim unionising is extreme? I claimed that Kickstarter specifically unionised because of extremism, namely, the belief that it's essential to help fund those advocating violence against conservatives (or really, anyone who isn't Marxist). I also claimed that other SV tech firms that unionise will probably do so for similar reasons, rather than the classical (non extreme) reasons that affect everyone like wages or working conditions.