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This looks super cool and polished. That it's a 11401 line shell script is blowing my mind.

by maxioatic 6y ago

pantulis 6y ago
The completeness of the tool combined with the madness of shell scripting. The author is a demigod, no doubt.
- maxioatic 6y ago
  A shelligod, for sure
bachmeier 6y ago
Everyone should use the language of their choice. That said, looking over the code, I understand why Perl became popular as a shell replacement.
- heresie-dabord 6y ago
  > Everyone should use the language of their choice. We live in a fruitful age for programming. There are many viable languages. Some have notation that is more difficult, perhaps, but humans are good at notation and there is no such thing as "easy" programming. That said, any language that offers portability and stability that can be measured in _decades_ has a distinct advantage.
dmd 6y ago
I hate to be critical of what's a rather impressive piece of work, but a lot of the reason for that length is just a lot of repetition, e.g. https://github.com/xwmx/nb/blob/master/nb#L10423 https://github.com/xwmx/nb/blob/master/nb#L10423
- xwmx 6y ago
  That particular function, `nb show`, is a big `if` statement checking the file type and environment for available tools. I'm more than happy for suggestions and / or pull requests for optimizing that. Note that Bash is a weird language that doesn't provide language features found in normal languages, and this targets old Bash which doesn't even have associative arrays, so there are things that might look "wrong", but aren't necessarily in this context. That's a big part of what makes it interesting to code in.
  - pantulis 6y ago
    Why did you decide to go with Bash instead of another scripting language like Python or Ruby? Portability? "Just because"? I am not bashing Bash ;) but genuinously interested in the motivations as a programmer. You have stated that the Bash shortcomings are "interesting", so I guess it boils down to some kind of "who cares, let's do it with Bash". I tried nb yesterday and damn if it had a native capture tool for macOS and iOS this would be the perfect Evernote replacement for me.
    - xwmx 6y ago
      Portability, philosophy, style. I find that designing within constraints can lead to interesting solutions, and this project has focused on embracing and leveraging the command line interface itself.

This looks super cool and polished. That it's a 11401 line shell script is blowing my mind.

pantulis 6y ago

The completeness of the tool combined with the madness of shell scripting. The author is a demigod, no doubt.

maxioatic 6y ago
A shelligod, for sure

bachmeier 6y ago

Everyone should use the language of their choice. That said, looking over the code, I understand why Perl became popular as a shell replacement.

heresie-dabord 6y ago
> Everyone should use the language of their choice. We live in a fruitful age for programming. There are many viable languages. Some have notation that is more difficult, perhaps, but humans are good at notation and there is no such thing as "easy" programming. That said, any language that offers portability and stability that can be measured in _decades_ has a distinct advantage.

dmd 6y ago

I hate to be critical of what's a rather impressive piece of work, but a lot of the reason for that length is just a lot of repetition, e.g. https://github.com/xwmx/nb/blob/master/nb#L10423 https://github.com/xwmx/nb/blob/master/nb#L10423

xwmx 6y ago
That particular function, `nb show`, is a big `if` statement checking the file type and environment for available tools. I'm more than happy for suggestions and / or pull requests for optimizing that. Note that Bash is a weird language that doesn't provide language features found in normal languages, and this targets old Bash which doesn't even have associative arrays, so there are things that might look "wrong", but aren't necessarily in this context. That's a big part of what makes it interesting to code in.
- pantulis 6y ago
  Why did you decide to go with Bash instead of another scripting language like Python or Ruby? Portability? "Just because"? I am not bashing Bash ;) but genuinously interested in the motivations as a programmer. You have stated that the Bash shortcomings are "interesting", so I guess it boils down to some kind of "who cares, let's do it with Bash". I tried nb yesterday and damn if it had a native capture tool for macOS and iOS this would be the perfect Evernote replacement for me.
  - xwmx 6y ago
    Portability, philosophy, style. I find that designing within constraints can lead to interesting solutions, and this project has focused on embracing and leveraging the command line interface itself.