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Maybe he's changed. Is there any evidence to suggest DDG is anything but honest?

Angeo34 6y ago
I never got this logic. If it's about privacy they are obliged to proof that they are private especially with such a backstory. It's like Google saying "yes we are private" and then data share with the entirety of the US gov without any order. Why do you trust DDG did they do anything to earn your trust or is your trust that worthless?
- esperent 6y ago
  I don't have any particular trust in them. However, they've staked their entire business model on privacy. That would be foolish if their intent is to sell user info, because doing that is unlikely to stay private for long.
  - ssorallen 6y ago
    Their entire business model is [selling advertisements][0], same as Google. [0]: https://help.duckduckgo.com/company/advertising-and-affiliates/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/company/advertising-and-affiliat...
    - pbronez 6y ago
      DDG is using a very old version of Google’s business model: they serve ads based on your search string. That’s it. No search history mining. No email reading. No broadly deployed analytics snippets and browser logins to reconstruct your whole browsing history. I’m already sending my search query to DDG for them to give me search results. They don’t ask for any additional data. They just allow advertisers to bid on the first few results for a particular topic. I’m ok with that.
  - Dahoon 6y ago
    Exactly like Startpage.com that then became part of a datamining/harvesting business.
- mrweasel 6y ago
  How do you prove that you’re privacy focused? You have to somehow prove that there’s something you did’t do. That’s kinda hard, and not much different from keeping it a secret.
- codegladiator 6y ago
  Innocent until proven guilty. By your logic no new company can ever build anything which preserves privacy. You cannot prove a service preserves your privacy. You can only prove that it does not preserve it.

I never got this logic. If it's about privacy they are obliged to proof that they are private especially with such a backstory. It's like Google saying "yes we are private" and then data share with the entirety of the US gov without any order. Why do you trust DDG did they do anything to earn your trust or is your trust that worthless?

esperent 6y ago
I don't have any particular trust in them. However, they've staked their entire business model on privacy. That would be foolish if their intent is to sell user info, because doing that is unlikely to stay private for long.
- ssorallen 6y ago
  Their entire business model is [selling advertisements][0], same as Google. [0]: https://help.duckduckgo.com/company/advertising-and-affiliates/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/company/advertising-and-affiliat...
  - pbronez 6y ago
    DDG is using a very old version of Google’s business model: they serve ads based on your search string. That’s it. No search history mining. No email reading. No broadly deployed analytics snippets and browser logins to reconstruct your whole browsing history. I’m already sending my search query to DDG for them to give me search results. They don’t ask for any additional data. They just allow advertisers to bid on the first few results for a particular topic. I’m ok with that.
- Dahoon 6y ago
  Exactly like Startpage.com that then became part of a datamining/harvesting business.
mrweasel 6y ago
How do you prove that you’re privacy focused? You have to somehow prove that there’s something you did’t do. That’s kinda hard, and not much different from keeping it a secret.
codegladiator 6y ago
Innocent until proven guilty. By your logic no new company can ever build anything which preserves privacy. You cannot prove a service preserves your privacy. You can only prove that it does not preserve it.