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You missed the point entirely. A bad guy was nailed this time, great. But he wasn't kicked out because he was a bad guy, he was kicked out because he was a li

You missed the point entirely. A bad guy was nailed this time, great. But he wasn't kicked out because he was a bad guy, he was kicked out because he was a liability to the corporation. The mechanisms for outing and booting out this guy works just as well against people you support, like union organizers or whistleblowers or even simply those whose politics doesn't line up with the interests of the business. The sword doesn't care who wields it or who it cuts.

iron0013 6y ago
Union organizers and whistleblowers should and in many cases already do have protections specifically encoded into law. Far-out political cults that routinely slander and threaten violence against their opponents do not serve a particular purpose in the workplace and thus have no similar protections. This guy’s employer correctly pegged him as an embarrassment that had the potential to harm their bottom line and showed him the door. That’s how the labor market under capitalism works.
gamblor956 6y ago
The mechanisms for outing and booting out this guy works just as well against people you support, like union organizers or whistleblowers or even simply those whose politics doesn't line up with the interests of the business. Union organizers and whistleblowers have specific legal protections because they are deemed not to be engaged in political activities but in legal activities (like organizing a union or revealing fraud or criminal activity). Businesses are otherwise mostly free to terminate workers over their political beliefs unless the business operates in a state which includes political affiliation as a protected class (like California, but notably not New York or New Jersey).
NotSammyHagar 6y ago
There are people with specific legal protections. Amazon and Google would seem to be in jeopardy potentially for firing union organizers. Because so many Republicans and/or businesses support right to work laws (firing for any or no reason) this is a consequence. Since that guy became a Repub., it's reasonable to assume he supported that and never thought it would impact him in that way. So think about that everyone who thinks unions and work rules have no point.
shadowgovt 6y ago
Indeed, but we've addressed that by making it illegal to fire an employee for union organizing or whistleblowing, not by breaking the sword. In the general case, the societal value of having this sword around is recgonized.
- kls 6y ago
  To be clear I was not advocation for the removal of the banks right to remove him and certainly not arguing for the government to have the ability to step in. Just highlighting that I personally believe it is a bad path we are trudging along.

iron0013 6y ago

Union organizers and whistleblowers should and in many cases already do have protections specifically encoded into law. Far-out political cults that routinely slander and threaten violence against their opponents do not serve a particular purpose in the workplace and thus have no similar protections. This guy’s employer correctly pegged him as an embarrassment that had the potential to harm their bottom line and showed him the door. That’s how the labor market under capitalism works.

gamblor956 6y ago

The mechanisms for outing and booting out this guy works just as well against people you support, like union organizers or whistleblowers or even simply those whose politics doesn't line up with the interests of the business. Union organizers and whistleblowers have specific legal protections because they are deemed not to be engaged in political activities but in legal activities (like organizing a union or revealing fraud or criminal activity). Businesses are otherwise mostly free to terminate workers over their political beliefs unless the business operates in a state which includes political affiliation as a protected class (like California, but notably not New York or New Jersey).

NotSammyHagar 6y ago

There are people with specific legal protections. Amazon and Google would seem to be in jeopardy potentially for firing union organizers. Because so many Republicans and/or businesses support right to work laws (firing for any or no reason) this is a consequence. Since that guy became a Repub., it's reasonable to assume he supported that and never thought it would impact him in that way. So think about that everyone who thinks unions and work rules have no point.

shadowgovt 6y ago

Indeed, but we've addressed that by making it illegal to fire an employee for union organizing or whistleblowing, not by breaking the sword. In the general case, the societal value of having this sword around is recgonized.

kls 6y ago
To be clear I was not advocation for the removal of the banks right to remove him and certainly not arguing for the government to have the ability to step in. Just highlighting that I personally believe it is a bad path we are trudging along.