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I emigrated to Hong Kong from France and I love the system here. It mandated a "high" salary of 2000USD that is low enough to allow noobs like me to join and tr
by xwolfi 6y ago
I emigrated to Hong Kong from France and I love the system here. It mandated a "high" salary of 2000USD that is low enough to allow noobs like me to join and try while high enough not to bring people who would just try to survive no better than at home.
They also mandate a master degree and low effort from the company, which can be negociated if really strong guy (bachelor with some effory, expert reputation with high effort).
Then they give a permanent residency after 7 years of taxes but no path to nationality so the only way to persist is to make children locally, another interesting point: you ll never be Chinese but your kids can, which makes also the immigration problem drama free.
I quite wish France tried that because we feel (might not be rational) we have so many issues with our immigration.
- wegs 6y agoThousands of people have made it down the path to nationality in Honk Kong. Acquiring Chinese nationality -- whether mainland or not -- is possible. It's just that the standards are very, very, very exclusive.
- tellarin 6y agoCan you offer any links? As far as I know, becoming a citizen is next to impossible. Also, one would have to renounce any other citizenship.
- wegs 6y agoIn mainland China, the only examples I've heard of were leading academics. The standard is "outstanding contributions" to China. That's what I mean by "very high bar." Next to impossible is not a bad way to describe it, but next to impossible isn't the same as impossible. Thousands have done it. That's not a lot. I don't think it's even tens of thousands. On paper, there is also path by which you can marry into Chinese citizenship, but it's exceptionally rare in practice. "Renounce other citizenships" is complex. Many nations don't provide a citizens with a means to stop being citizen. Which is to say, if you take a Chinese (or any other) citizenship, and renounce your old citizenship, you may still end up with both citizenships. I don't know specifics about Honk Kong, but I do know the standards are laxer than mainland China.
- ChuckNorris89 6y agoI don't know why you're being downvoted for wanting a more sane immigration system for France. Whenever limits to US H1Bs a are mentioned that gets full support on HN because it waters down local salaries but when similar systems are proposed for Europe it gets downvoted. Seems pretty double standard.
- kamaal 6y agoSame with India. Indians want the whole world to roll the red carpets for them. At the same time India just recently passed anti-immigration acts. Its the classic 'Do as I say, not as I do'.
- yowlingcat 6y agoYep, you got it. Ask them why their zeal for opening borders doesn't extend to their eastern neighbor and you will get a lot of heat very quickly.
- cvhashim 6y agoIndia has become seemingly fascist overnight under Mr Modi. Just like Trump, he favours immigration and citizenship policies designed to demonise minority groups
- goku99 6y agoAre you referring to CAA? Then you mistaking my friend. CAA is targeted to prevent illeagle immigration. It also, eases citizenship for people of minority religion. Moreover that law is targeted only towards neighboring countries, specifically towards Pak., Ban., and Afgh. And 'No' We do not expect red carpets anywhere on the world. Its totally a individual's choice to move abroad or stay. Due to huge population, the figures look high too.
- neilparikh 6y agoHow do you know that the same Indians advocating for more open immigration in the US are the same ones advocating for anti-immigration acts in India? India isn't one person that holds all these opinions.