I used to use MVC frameworks a lot. The problem I ran into was as soon as you have one thing on the page that can't survive the reload, you can never reload aga

I used to use MVC frameworks a lot. The problem I ran into was as soon as you have one thing on the page that can't survive the reload, you can never reload again. Cue 3k lines of JQuery and regret. I think of it this way, would you stream pre-rendered markup to a native iOS, Android, or Windows app? The thought of it is crazy, who would ever do that. I think most people agree that the web is getting closer to native all the time. I think we're reaching the pivot where you're better off using React and co for any kind of interactivity. Page reloads are already used in media to portray slow/old websites. I don't see that getting better